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Paint_shaker
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I currently have the tall zero g tinted one. The airflow hits me right about the neck area, giving me a nice draft on my chest in the cold.

I am looking for pictures, brands and opinions of available windscreens for Ulys.

Anybody using the factory Buell tall windscreen? Does it have a slight upward bend near the top? Where does the wind hit?
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Buellerxt
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Paint Shaker,

You hit on the subject that is 100% on my mind right now, and which has been over the past few days! When I got my XT, with the tall screen, a little over a month ago, the wind was hitting me hard and my head was buffeted badly at highway speed. Being 6'1" with a 33/34" inseam, I had two other issues as well, sore shoulders from leaning forward and sore knees on longer rides from the 'sport' seating position. I'm an ol' cruiser guy that has put many, many miles on cruisers/touring bikes, in comfort, and I set out to get that same comfort on my cool new Uly!

Well, it hasn't been as easy as I had hoped but hopefully I'm getting there. I bought a laminar Lip and a new 'tall' seat and I considered a 2" riser, that I eventually got. I started with the Lip, without changing anything else, and after moving it up and down three times wasn't happy. The wind noise was much greater than I had been used to, and I wear plugs, but worst of all I kept getting my head knocked around by the wind. I set the lip 2.25" above my shield, 1.25" below, and then back to 1.25 above, with similar results every time. Today I went for a 70-80 mile ride to test it again, not good, and decided that since I added the tall seat and 2" risers 'since' installing the Lip that I would remove the Lip, head out again, and see how the 'tall' XT shield was, for me, with the changes. I was SURPRISED. I still have more wind noise than on my cruiser/touring bikes but my head is C-A-L-M! My head isn't bobbing and being buffeted and I can see clearly, read clearly, etc.

Who knows what tomorrow will bring but right now I'm thinking that the tall shield, given my 'seating' height, the tall seat, and the 2" risers, will fill the bill. Time will tell.

This is a LONG way of saying that there are so many variables involved (seat height, seating height, risers, etc.)that a 'tall' shield might be great for some and terrible for others. Hey, best of luck to both of us! lol
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had a stock screen with the lamar lip. Didn't do much for me and the lip decided to part ways with the windscreen while on the highway.

I think the zero g tall (touring) screen will work better if I can figure out a way to angle it up more.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I run mine naked when its warm, super clean air with no buffeting.


I will run the Cee Baileys when its wet, cold or for a long trip that has a chance of rain.
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Eulysses
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Guys...when we start blocking the wind with bigger screens...the air comes up below the screen...up your front and shakes your head to pieces. Using a mongo tank bag or lower fork deflectors like Memphis Shades or make your own on the forks (search Memphis Shades and learn) you will be in bliss. The ride height of the big screen does have some issue. I use the Palmer bracket that lets me adjust some height and angle plus makes a hole for a little air to come through to help with negative pressure...but the real key is that air coming up from under the screen. Go for a ride and put your hand down there (one hand!) and block the air. See what I mean? Ahhhh...nice.
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Buellerxt
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Eulysses,

Is the Palmer leaving you with head buffeting? Why did you feel it necessary to get the Memphis lowers? Any experience with them?

Thanks for your reference for them and please let us know how they work out. You have the 'tall' seat, right? Is the Palmer taller than the XT shield or just brackets to adjust angles? Ths.
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Eulysses
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buellerxt...regarding head buffeting: I think now it is from under the windshield! Serious.

There can be some buffeting if your windshield tops out wrong...for inseam/seat height/distance from head etc. but if your windshield height (Palmer or not) is about eye level plus or minus a couple inches and not too far away...your buffeting is coming up from the bottom. Really! Took me a lot of windshields and screwing around with different mountings etc to figure it out. Search Memphis Shades on BWB and check out the first threads. You really can have a nice cabin area.
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Paralegalpete
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Heres the Uly tall with the Palmer brackets. Much better than stock, still some buffeting but the brackets keep the air flow from being directed into my face
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Etennuly
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)





I give you the original B.A.W.
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Eulysses
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ettenuelly...THAT is killer (from a functional point of view!) The shield could even be a little lower on the sides. Do you know this bike? Comfort report?
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Etennuly
Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, it is mine. It sucks in warm to hot weather. It is great in cold weather. This is its fourth season.

It was a fair bit larger when I first started experimenting with it. It is wide enough to cover my hands and arms when riding and the top is at the middle of my face shield. The front lower sides are cut around the turn signals and are low enough to cut most of the air that passes up the slope of the fuel tank.

I made another one for a friend of mine. He wanted a different shape, not liking the look around the signals. It mounts behind the fly screen, so he wanted it to taper from the headlights up to the bars without the hand guards. After a short test ride we built a set of deflector wings for the signal area, as the wind blast was going right up into the riders arm pits. The winglets fixed it.

As far as comfort, I don't think it gets much better. It is stable in all wind conditions and traffic. I live in East Tennessee and ride all year. It works well at 40F with rain too. I have ridden to Daytona with it. A few weeks ago I ran out to Nashville at 80+ mph on the Interstate, in and around trucks no problem.

It makes riding quieter, but the engine noises are more noticeable as well as the Buzzzzzzzz from the Lyndall front brake pads. It keeps the bugs off much better and I had a bird bounce off from it last fall. I have not been stung by any bees when it is on either.

I put it on when the day time temps are below 60F and the night times are below 50F. Usually that means mid October to mid March in Tennessee.
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Jsg4dfan
Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Could someone please post a pic of the Memphis Shades lowers on a Uly? I'm thinking of trying them with my CalSci screen. After I fix the damage from the deer, that is...
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Dmmblaze
Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How do you have those side cases mounted to the Blast Etennuly?
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Lens
Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a Parabellum windshield and use these to keep the wind off of my chest. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/472833.html?1248695180

(Message edited by lens on November 28, 2009)
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where can I find the Palmer brackets??
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Windrider
Posted on Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Anybody using the factory Buell tall windscreen? Does it have a slight upward bend near the top? Where does the wind hit?"

I run the stock Buell windscreen in the summer and the tall Buell windscreen in the fall and spring or on long trips.

The tall Buell screen has a an upward bend at the top. The wind from it hits me right in the chin, just were I like it. I am 5' 11" tall for reference. Airstream is smooth.

Personally, I think that the Buell offerings are perfect for windscreen options but I am clearly in the minority in that opinion.

I personally do not care for sitting behind a barn door type of shield for my riding experience.
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Strada
Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 03:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks to those providing feedback on my kit.

'Where can I find the Palmer brackets??'

http://palmerproducts.auto.officelive.com/buellxb1 2x.aspx

The kit allows you to use your own screen or 3 of our own designs.
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Strada, PM sent.
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Eulysses
Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Strada...you need some wings for the forks for the low wind.

Ettenually...what shield did you start your carvings with? An ATV screen?
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Etennuly
Posted on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I started with a 4'x10' sheet of 3/16" polycarbonate. I made it big enough to cover my physical being as I sit on the bike. Then I carved it down in stages, with many miles of testing in all kinds of weather, to where it works the way I like it.

When I remove it from the bike it pops right back to flat. This stuff will not hold a bend on its own, I tried many heat forming techniques. Get it hot enough to bend it will deform or scorch the surface, but not bend.

DM, there is a bit about the Blastulys on the Thumper Forum, Got Thump Pics.
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

couldn't be happier with the palmer brackets and tall windscreen that i got from. have it set all the way up and all the way out on the adjustment.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Etennuly,
Who'd you order that 4'10' from? Interesting that it won't hold form but that is good info to know. Won't need one that large though. I'm going to make a windscreen somewhat like yours but it will utilize the handlebar mounted Slipstreamer rods, and will flow down into lowers. Winter project.
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Etennuly
Posted on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ele, It was a specialties plastics and laminating company in Knoxville, I don't recall the name. You could probably google it under "Polycarbonate" or "lexan" sheeting for a location near you.
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Eulysses
Posted on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I took an experimental SlipStream off my DR650 where I had added the lower wings right down off the windshield. Couple of 6" wide strips. The cabin area got so quiet and still the exhaust (high pipe) came in to try and put me to sleep! Needed a hole in the windshield. My Palmers do the hole on the Uly and now I just need the lower wings. Have the "Shades" coming but could have just built down from the big SlipStream I have on the Palmer brackets.

Ettenuly...that shield is awesome! Go riding anytime. You have that special inventor gene. Love the Blast too. Wish my girl rode.
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Etennuly
Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had to make a ninety mile run to pick up a couple of customer trucks yesterday. The wife and I suited up our 21 year old daughter, who was laughing the whole time because we hadn't suited her up like this since she was ten. Then we hit the Interstate at 75 to 80 mph all of the way. When we left it was 38F. When we arrived at our destination it was up to 46F. What a beautiful sunny day for a ride.

I did not bother with the heated gloves. I used my Buell Gauntlet gloves with the Poly Heaters on low. I turned on my heated jacket about half of the trip. My daughter had my snomobile gloves and my Steelers winter coat over a riding jacket.

The bike was flawless. The windshield works perfectly, no cold wind blast, no buffeting, very stable even when behind or passing big trucks. I don't know how Uly owners make it through a winter without riding, I can't get past a week. That is probably why so many babies are made in the winter.



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Blasterd
Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Paintshaker, I've got the stock tall windshield on my XP and it works great. I'm about 5'11"
Ken
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Eulysses
Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Etenn..is that shield UNDER the fly screen? It is a geezer dream shield to me...this geezer would have gone your route if I weren't almost all the way there. Come summer I would just run the low shield and enjoy the breeze.
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Etennuly
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Eulysses, Yep, under the fly screen it is.

I cannot wait for spring to take it back off. It does it's job very well, but that job is blocking cold mu%^#@fu$^in' wind in the winter. I hate winter. Give me summer with the stock windshield anytime.

Did you notice the coincidence of the "ice cold" decal on my Coke machine? I didn't even notice that until after I posted it.
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Rwven
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've had the Palmer brackets for about a year now and I just installed the braces Iain sells. I would highly recommend the braces after trying them. The shield is steady as a rock now. I also noticed that at highway speeds the front end seems much steadier, I suspect that the deflection of the windshield was affecting directional stability a tiny bit. I am running the Buell tall shield.
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Eulysses
Posted on Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rwven. I agree on those braces. I have a big sail for a windscreen and you CAN feel the screen movement in the steering. The Palmer braces for bigger screens solves the problem. I see other big shields like Parabellum have braces too.
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