| Author | Message | ||
     Dmmblaze |
I am thinking about buying a larger windshield and was curious as to the best way to install a Cee Bailey's shield. I called Cee Bailey's after reading their online description which says special washers are included with the purchase of a windshield to minimize vibration. http://www.ceebaileys.com/buell/ulyssesws2.html My main concern was the vibration that is mentioned and if there were other options besides the hardware they list to combat any excessive vibration. The rep told me the website should be updated, and that no washers or hardware is included with their Ulysses wind shield. So my question is, whats the best way to install a Cee Bailey windshield? Is it simply installed just like the stock wind screen with nothing special needed? Any one have any tips or tried and true experiences mounting one? Thanks (Message edited by dmmblaze on October 07, 2009) | ||
| Hardlya |
For me the wind noise was unacceptable. I've ended up with a madstad bracket with a vstrom windshield and laminar lip. I can actually here the motor at 80 now!! The Cee Bailey replaces the entire fly screen and cover. It is held on with 6 screws with rubber washers under the screen directly on the instrument housing. It is very easy to loose the washers during mounting and dismounting of the w/s. I would suggest cutting a strip of rubber and punching holes in the correct locations. This would minimize the possibility of getting a cracked w/s. Vibration was not an issue on mine...just the horrible wind noise. | ||
| Ulygirl |
I would NOT recommend a Cee Bailey's windshield at all! Especially on the Uly! The wind buffeting and noise was intolerable. I switched to a California Scientific windshield and couldn't be happier. | ||
| Dmmblaze |
Thanks for your insight Hardlya. How big was the Cee Bailey's screen you mounted? | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
 and to mount it... a trip to Home Depot and got so stainless fasteners and some washers with rubber on one side... works great!  | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
couple more for ya...   | ||
| Jim_williams |
wait a second. You buy a new windshield, and, you have to go to Home Depot to mount it  | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
I had replaced the stock flyscreen screws with the ones from the Depot awhile back. They work better... they make it a lot easier to swap from the Cee Baileys back to the stock one.  | ||
| Etennuly |
How did that wind generator do mounted on the windshield? Seems like it would be a bit heavy and cause some unbalanced drag on the right side. Hmmmm.....Isn't that prop kinda close to your head?  | ||
| Mark_weiss |
Check out Parabellum's offerings too. I've been pretty happy with mine. Mark in AZ | ||
| Helmetbolt |
I use a Cee Baileys screen. I've had it 2 years now. I only get vibration at very low revs when pulling away. It suits my 6' 5" frame perfectly.  | ||
| Cyclonedon |
I would NOT recommend a Cee Bailey's windshield at all! Especially on the Uly! The wind buffeting and noise was intolerable I agree with Ulygirl, I just put my CeeBaileys 16" screen for the winter riding and it gives me a headace with the wind noise. It seems to direct all the wind right at my helmet. I'm already missing the summer ridding with my Zero Gravity tall screen.  | ||
| Eulysses |
Wind buffeting is not the shield but the height of the shield in relation to your height minus your inseam. Head buffeting is the either the turbulance over the top of the screen or side. So the height of the screen and the tilt (or your distance to it) affects the turbulance. A hole like a Palmer bracket creates or CA screen has cut in it changes the "behind screen" turbulance. I have been working on this for a few months, got shields all over my shop and two bikes I've been screwing with...don't blame the screen for headaches. You don't have it dialed in yet. Sometimes lowering it to get your helmet in clean air is the only think you can do. Then you may have chest turbulance to figure out. Or not. | ||
| Bienhoabob |
I agree with Eulysses. I always thought I had a noisy helmet when riding the Uly. Then I brought a Honda ST with an electric windshield. I can move the windshield to different heights. Some of the WS positions are turbulent and noisy, other positions are wind free and quite. Finding the right position can be done in a matter of seconds on the ST, on the Uly it's all trial and error. | ||
| Cycletlh |
My only real disappointment with the bike is the wind noise that I get. Still working on the trial and error thing. Keep coming up with errors. Wish the factory would come up with a better solution. Eulysses, please post your findings when you get it all sorted out. I have read every windshield post for over 2 years. No real consensus on what works. | ||
| Steve046 |
Check to see where the wind is coming from that's giving you the buffeting. It may be coming up from under the lower edge of the fairing. Fairings with no venting (like my Parabellum) are the worst for that. If the wind is coming up from below, look at possibly adding some lowers. I just added Memphis Shades lowers to my Uly, and the change was night and day. The buffeting is just gone. | ||
| Crempel |
I purchased the Palmer brackets several months ago and used them with the Buell tall screen. In most of the positions I found a fair bit of noise and buffeting. The most comfortable position for me was with the screen adjusted to it highest position but the lowest possible angle of rake. This resulted in a very smooth flow but left a fair bit of air coming at my body. In other words great for summer riding. I more recently bought, for winter riding, the Palmer large screen (with the light tint) and absolutely love it. For me the highest of the three notches and the middle rake setting is almost ideal. NO buffeting and virtually dead calm cockpit. Plus the screen looks like it belongs on the Uly, unlike some others I have seen. LOVE IT!! The Palmer screen does not have the flip up at the top like the Buell one does, so I wonder if this makes some difference as well. I did install the stabilizer bars with the Palmer screen and it is dead steady at any speed I have tried. I would highly recommend the Palmer setup based on the fact of the adjustability alone. | ||
| Eulysses |
Steve's point about wind source is key. You can find it with your hand (but watch for moving closer to the screen as you block wind with your hand because now you have another issue of being closer which can affect turbulence) Sheesh! With Uly exhaust coming out the bottom we can quiet the cabin with fairings like Memphis Shades and not get exhaust CO poisoning! Ask me how I know... Crempel's report is good...but based on Crempel's height and inseam...not the screen so much (and which seat for heaven's sakes!). The flips at the top of screens are ok if high enough over your head (which is also based on how close the screen is to your head) but can create a lot of turbulence if too low. See where this is going? I like my Palmer Brackets because I can screw with height and rake. Start with the biggest screen and adjust the brackets...then cut the screen if you have to, inch by inch. I am messing with a SlipStream I drilled to Uly 4 bolt pattern and attached to Palmer brackets. Crempel...what is your height and inseam? Oh...and which seat you riding? Thanks. | ||
| Crempel |
I am 6'1" with a 31" inseam. I have the standard 07 (low) seat. I couldn't touch the ground with the standard 06 (tall) seat. | ||
| Eulysses |
Thanks Crempel. I am 6'1.5" with 33' inseam which with a seat 1.5" taller. I sit 1.5" lower (height minus inseam) but come back to Crempel's height with tall seat. I should experience what Crempel experiences with the tallest Palmer screen (and the brackets to screw with the height and slope (rake). Gotta do the math. Another option even taller which allows some trimming if needed would be the big Parabellum drilled for the Uly so it will fit the Palmer brackets too. | ||
| Gsilvernale |
There are three things that you need to address with air flow. 1 - Pressure on your torso/shoulders. 2 - Noise 3 - Buffeting Using taller windshields will remove that feeling of doing the eternal pull up, but you do pickup additional noise/buffeting, because your helmet is not in clean air. For noise, Lowers will probably do the trick - or just a put a big ass tank bag on it. Just doing that makes the bike much quieter. Buffeting will be a factor of windshield height and angle. I have the tall windshield on right now. I have also tried the Palmer brackets on the tall and short. Using the brackets and the two windshields, I have tried 20 different positions. I like the taller windshield without the brackets, or the short windshield with the brackets - all the way up. Either one of these takes the air pressure off the shoulders, and does not cause much buffeting. But the noise was not solved until the tank bag was added to change the airflow. None of them helped as much as the | ||
| Rwcfrank |
type in "windscreen bolts" on Ebay and see what wonderful harwarde is availabe from China. No kidding the aluminum washers in the $6 kit work very nicely and come in all the colors of the rainbow. | ||
| Crempel |
I always have a tankbag on my Uly, the large Buell one. I agree this helps with noise coming from below. I also agree that the tall Buell shield with the Palmer brackets does cause buffeting, enough to give me a headache in most positions especially the higher ones. With tall Buell shield the only position I liked was the farthest up the brackets with the least possible rake. The shield actually had a shallower angle than the flyscreen. With the large Palmer screen, I'm in heaven. I have tried a few more positions since my last post here and have more info. With Palmer brackets set to highest vertical setting and steepest rake, there is a little more buffeting, probably caused by the increased distance from my head to the screen. Its nowhere near as bad as with the Buell tall screen, but noticeable nevertheless. Best for me so far is farthest up the brackets with the rake in the middle, AND the leading edge of the screen pulled UP in the bracket to increase the size of the opening between the flyscreen and the windscreen. Make sense? | ||
| Motorfish |
I had the Buell tall windshield, which didn`t seem to make much difference than the stock one, to me. I now have the Parabellum tall windshiled, I think it`s the +28". It`s hugh, ugly, but I see over it, I`m 5'11". I really think most of the buffeting is caused by airflow around the fairing, around the frame, then rolling up my chest to my head. I will try to make some type of fairing lowers, this winter. There are posts on this site that this has stopped the buffeting for those who have them. Check them out, by searching. It makes sense to me. I can feel the airflow, with my hand, while riding. | ||
| Eulysses |
The Palmer bracket lets air in under the shield to cut down the negative air pressure...like the CA shield. I wonder if a hole in the Parabellem about handle bar would help. | ||
| Eulysses |
Anybody running those Memphis Shades-type lower fairing shields? Which ones? | ||
| Dride |
I really like my Parabellum wind screen. I would check them out. | ||
| Dmmblaze |
I picked up some #10-32 X 5/8" button head screws from a local hardware store for mounting the flyscreen. Great idea wolfridgerider. Thanks everyone for your input. | ||
| Jomartijr |
Could some of you post some more pictures of what works for you so we can see the shields on your bikes? I have the standard X shield and am getting lots of windblast on chest, shoulders and helmet on my short self (5'8"). So this winter I will be doing some windscreen shopping and it would be good not to spend lots of $$ on experimenting. | ||
| Shopguy10 |
My CeeBailey sucks! I am 6' with a 31 inseam and use a low seat and find that the CB causes so much buffeting and wind noise to my helmet I would be better off with no windshield at all. As a matter of fact, my "tall" zero gravity screen is quieter. The only advantage to the CB is that it does block the wind blast on my torso. I think I am going to try the 28" parabellum after seeing it on the bike and hearing such good things about it here. I may also try making lowers from acrylic to block the windblast that rockets up from hitting the front of the frame. |
