| Author | Message | ||
     Froggy |
Danbury has a red 09 lobster with the upright bars and a black with clubmans, I want red with clubmans. I am really tempted to snag it quick, I qualify for that 3.99% interest. | ||
| Xbimmer |
I particularly appreciate the larger 3 bearing axle. Whoa whoa whoa!  Where and/or when did I miss that? M0907.5AK FAN EXHAUST AIR DUCT Retail Price:$11.60 I'm in for that, thanks Hughlysses and Froggy. | ||
| Froggy |
G0321.5AK AXLE, REAR, 3-BEARING Retail Price:$55.50 E0005.5AK BEARING, WHEEL, 6206-RS2 62 X 30 X 16 Retail Price:$15.20  | ||
| Hughlysses |
Xbimmer- See thread on new wheels/bearings here: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/482664.html?1248804819 | ||
| Ourdee |
HEY! 3 BEARINGS!? I need 3 instead of 2. How much is a set of wheels with everything, front and rear. If I do it when tire time comes, I can keep the old ones as a spare. I better upgrade the belt at the same time. | ||
| Froggy |
Ourdee, you need a new wheel, pick a color: G0309.7AAYBR WHEEL, REAR, TRANSLUCENT AMBER Retail Price:$315.00 G0309.7AAYBX WHEEL, REAR, STRONGBAD TRANSLUCENT BLUE Retail Price:$315.00 G0309.7AAYCC WHEEL, REAR, CHERRY BOMB RED Retail Price:$315.00 G0309.7AAYCR WHEEL, REAR, BARRACUDA BLUE Retail Price:$285.00 G0309.7AAYCX WHEEL, REAR, PIRANHA BLACK Retail Price:$285.00 G0309.7AAYDC WHEEL, REAR, PIRANHA BLACK W/RED PINSTRP Retail Price:$285.00 G0309.7AAYJ WHEEL, REAR, SKY WHITE, UNPAINTED EDGE Retail Price:$285.00 G0309.7AAYT WHEEL, REAR, VILLAIN BLACK Retail Price:$285.00 G0309.7AAYZ WHEEL, REAR, SUNSET ORANGE Retail Price:$285.00 G0309A.7AAYJ WHEEL, REAR, SKY WHITE, FULL COVERAGE Retail Price:$285.00 G0309.5AKYBQ WHEEL, REAR, MAGNESIUM TONE (Uly reinforced) Retail Price:$336.00 Then you need the bearings, and axle, and a spacer. G0321.5AK AXLE, REAR, 3-BEARING Retail Price:$55.50 E0005.5AK BEARING, WHEEL, 6206-RS2 62 X 30 X 16 Retail Price:$15.20 Still working on the spacer part number. | ||
| Methed |
 "G0309.7AAYBX WHEEL, REAR, STRONGBAD TRANSLUCENT BLUE Retail Price:$315.00" Thanks for the grin on an otherwise shi++y day, Frogs. | ||
| Froggy |
I would like to know wtf strongbad blue is, if they renamed Hero Blue or if its something new. | ||
| Idaho_buelly |
I wish all these colors were choices for the Uly.. | ||
| Froggy |
They bolt right up | ||
| Methed |
Okay, is it really 'Strongbad Blue'? My guess is that it looks something like this:  | ||
| Steve_mackay |
Or, ourdee could bring his wheels up by me, and we could machine them to fit the new bearings and seals | ||
| Obuell1_kanoby |
Would machining the rear wheels for the 2010 bearings really be an option? I could have that done versus buying a new rear wheel.......??  | ||
| Steve_mackay |
I'd have to look at the wheels closely to be sure. But I bet it would work. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Steve and Toby, Couldn't a sleeve be welded to a bored out hub that'd accommodate the new bearings and axle? | ||
| Hughlysses |
I'm sure something like that could be done; I had thought of that as one way to handle larger OD/wider bearings before the factory came out with this update. You'd have to machine the wheel to accept a sleeve, machine the sleeve, weld the sleeve in place, and possibly re-machine the sleeve to remove welding distortion. I'm fairly certain getting a new wheel will be cheaper; it'll definitely be a lot easier. | ||
| Mnrider |
Maybe the new wheel comes with the bearings and spacer installed. | ||
| Hughlysses |
That's another interesting change for 2010- NONE of the rear wheels listed in the accessories catalog come with bearings installed. You have to buy a separate bearing/spacers kit. I'm wondering if that doesn't confirm that at least part of the bearing problem was caused by improper installation, probably in China where the wheels are made. Buell may trust the techs at the dealers to do a better job installing the bearings. IIRC they don't list any Uly wheels in the catalog but it wouldn't surprise me to see them the same way. | ||
| Froggy |
Hugh, There is a $51 price difference between the Uly wheel and XB, and 3 bearings and a spacer should be roughly $51, so perhaps Uly is the only one that comes preinstalled? | ||
| Hughlysses |
You may be right Froggy. Interesting. $336 + $55 for the axle = $391. I'm thinking some Uly riders (maybe a lot of Uly riders) will be upgrading. | ||
| Obuell1_kanoby |
Buying a new wheel does sound like the cheaper option. Because if the 3rd bearing location is in close proximity to the outer pulley side bearing, machining that deep into the hub would prob. not work; unless the ENTIRE hub was solid from the INSIDE DIA., where the axle goes through, to the OUTSIDE DIA., which is painted and finishes, clear coated, etc., etc.?? I would love to know the bearing orientation/spacing on the new axles. CAD drawings preferred!  Anyone have a spare wheel willing to donate to the experiment?!  | ||
| Hughlysses |
Anyone have a spare wheel willing to donate to the experiment?! More than one guy has toasted their rear wheel when the bearing failed & seized causing the outer race to spin in the wheel. If you could find one of these you could probably get it for free. We need to find the "Harley Davidson University Technical Forum 2010 Model Year" document. It's a PDF that comes out every year, that details EVERY little change made to HD & Buell bikes (including a lot of stuff not mentioned in the advertising hype). I've found the PDF posted on some Harley forum for at least the past 3 years. It should at least have detailed photos of the new setup, describe what's changed, and if it can be retrofitted. | ||
| Treadmarks |
Lets sell an inferior motorcycle to our customers, then when it fails to perform as advertised and they find out it is inferior we can charge them for the upgrade to make the motorcycle reliable. The bearing upgrade should be free and covered under warranty, just like side stands that fail and allow our bikes to fall over, pulsing front brake rotors that are not the fault of the owners, valve guides and seals that leak oil into our intake tracts, 77 connectors that burn up and leave us stranded, eroded headlight reflectors that reduce visibility, right side scoops that should have been there all along, fans that die prematurely, mufflers that continue to rust unless you pay someone else to professionaly refinish it, slippery footpegs that result in bruised shins, spark plug wires that chaff to the point of grounding out through no fault of the owners, a "beak" that in no way shape or form performs the duties of a fender, front fork springs that allow excessive dive and oem supplied dunflops that have resulted in the equivalent of low speed tank slaps for more than one of our brothers. Let me see...did I miss anything? As much as I love my Uly now, after spending tons of buckaroonies to fix factory inferior issues on my own, if I had it to do over again-I wouldn't. Now the 2010 bikes are out. Some of the pilot year issues may in fact be resolved. I am proud to have been one of the many guinea pigs for the new bikes. I hope they perform as advertised so the new Uly owners don't have to go through what we had to. Go ahead. Say it ain't so.  | ||
| Firstbatch |
+1 Tread......love my Uly but all the items you listed should easily have been rectified earlier on. Like you I like modifying motos to suit my needs/wants but some of these issues did not have to be. miss anything.....hmmmm how 'bout a fan that blows super hot air directly on the shock and rider seat. That never had to be part of the design. | ||
| Dentguy |
Let me see...did I miss anything? You forgot engine pinging and tag light falling apart. Although, after 2 weeks in the shop I was told by Buell CS "just ride it, we haven't had one come apart for pinging yet". So, maybe that's not a problem. | ||
| Dirt |
Well, I have experienced three rear wheel bearings failures in under 50k miles. The first 3 failures happened with the orange seal variety. I recently installed the black units and was hoping my troubles were over. Now I see there is a new design and wonder if the black seals are really a lasting solution to the problem or just a band-aid put out there to slow the failures but not necessarily stop them. I guess I'll know soon enough. | ||
| Bienhoabob |
Let me see...did I miss anything? How about fuel pump wires that rub on the housing until they wear off the insulation. | ||
| Crusty |
Go ahead. Say it ain't so. It ain't so. My '06 Uly was the most reliable bike I've owned in 40 years of riding motorcycles. My valve guide seals didn't pass enough oil to be a problem, my 77 connector never melted, shorted out or gave me any other kind of trouble, my headlight reflectors were fine, I still think that most right side scoops are in the same category as Phlogiston since my bike never overheated even when it was over 100° F, the plug wires never chafed, and I even liked the Dunlop 616s they worked fine for me right up to 110 MPH (while running with a Duck through Georgia on I-95). Of course, I only put 34,000 miles on it; maybe if I'd kept it those problems would have surfaced. | ||
| Tootal |
How about a steering radius only a road racer could love! A weak stator/VR prone to failure. An engine management system that had to be fixed by some of our wonderful German brothers! (ecmspy) I never buy first year products but when I heard they were getting rid of the tall seat on the 07 model I snatched up an 06. I never thought I could just buy an 06 seat!!  Once I got it to run right and made all my mods I do love the machine but I'm still waiting for the six speed that shifts like my Cagiva did. | ||
| Xbimmer |
I'm wondering if that doesn't confirm that at least part of the bearing problem was caused by improper installation, probably in China where the wheels are made. I've been saying that for over two years. And if I'm wrong I'll eat crow pie... |
