| Author | Message | ||
     Bmwdavid |
Got a quick question. My '06 Uly with 8,000 miles runs great. However it always pauses during a start. You hit the starter button and the motor turns over a bit and then seems to hit a compression stroke and sort of grunts and pauses then will turn and start right up. Every now and then I'll also get a clattering sound like the starter drive is not fully engaging on a start up. Then I release starter button and hit again and it will go through the above cycle and start. It never fails to start so what do I have here? I'm thinking of getting a new battery but...? I've checked battery connections and they are clean and tight. Thanks, David | ||
| Thetable |
My 08 does the same slow crank thing, I've checked voltage at the battery and it doesn't drop below 10.5V cranking, 12.5 sitting off, and ~14 running. Last time I was next to another Uly, his started just like mine. I haven't done anything about it, but the fear that it won't crank is always in the back of my mind. | ||
| Gamdh |
My '06 always did the same thing ... until I did the Tech Tip 339 TT399 – December 17, 2008 - Buell Ulysses Ground Repair 2006 – 2009 2006 – 2009 Buell Ulysses Ground Repair It made a big difference... I replaced the VR and Stator (grounded stator). I then replaced the battery.. the hesitation was still there. As soon as I cleand the grounds up.. all is well. In general... there are several grounds that you should clean/check. (Message edited by gamdh on May 21, 2009) | ||
| Gamdh |
the pdf for the tt is to big to attach.. if you want it... pm me. | ||
| Edgydrifter |
Mine does the same thing. I put star washers on several grounding wires a few months ago and the "pause" was much diminished. Now it's getting longer again, so I figure I've got some connection checking to do over the weekend. | ||
| Rwven |
When that starter is "rattling" the current is trying to find it's way back to the battery negative terminal through any path possible. It burned up the ground connection in my fuel pump wiring harness on it's way. Clean up those ground points. | ||
| Bmwdavid |
Wow...I did not think this was a widespread problem. I guess I'll look at all my grounding points. David | ||
| Ronmold |
I kinda like the rebellious hesitation when starting. Like a feisty horse not wanting to get saddled. | ||
| Andrejs2112 |
My 06 does it too. Any tips on which ground points to check? | ||
| Gamdh |
The one under the seat that the battery ground is connected to (near fuse box).... its the one in the Tech Tip. | ||
| Hooper |
God bless America, this IS a widespread problem. I did the washers on the battery posts, but what that really did was to keep the bike from dying randomly. My '06 Uly still does the hesitant start, especially in cold weather or after not riding for over a week. If I've been riding for 60 minutes or more, it fires right up (mostly). There was one morning out in the middle of nowhere that the puppy almost didn't turn over, which gave me visions of being stranded for days. I found that when I advanced the pistons a bit (rolling the bike backwards as much as I could), it helped the starter. Makes you wonder if it's got the right starter motor. Yow, this is the ONLY issue (aside from heat) I have with this incredible bike. In other news, I'll distract you with this:  | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Gamdh, Thanks for the pdf. I performed the tt399 to my ULY this morning. I really wasn't having a problem except for a bit of a hesitation now and then when pressing the starter button. I did notice that the grounding frame screw had been loctited at the factory. Cleaned everything up with sand paper and used dielectric grease for reassembly. Started right up without a hesitant stumble. October 05' build with original battery. (Message edited by electraglider_1997 on May 22, 2009) | ||
| Mnrider |
OK Hooper who's blue X | ||
| Roostre |
I put in the Odyssey battery and I worry no more. This bike is too big a pig to push start every cold morning! | ||
| Choyashi |
My God, The engine is cold, it has high compression, and massive pistons!! There is nothing wrong with the battery ground wire.......(and a teeny starter) Anyone here try to kick start an old Harley? Come on, get off this Voltage B.S.! When it's hot it dosen't hesitate does it? | ||
| Thetable |
Yes it does, or did. I just finished the tt399, and it now it starts like a charm. | ||
| Gamdh |
My '06 had done it since I got it.... hot or cold. It was worse when cold. It always started, but had that hesitation. Cleaning up the grounds in tt339 absolutely made a big difference.... there is zero hesitation now. It starts better now with 40k miles on it that it ever did. | ||
| Hooper |
Mnrider, that's Okc99's blue X. We rode up through Maryland to Frederick HD/B's "Buellfest" last weekend. He was having trouble with the tuning with his drummer - I think he was getting it worked on this weekend. Hope it works better than it did that weekend. I took a spin on it - never ridden the low seat before...it was crazy, but felt pretty good. I loaned him my tall Buell screen for the week...it's been wild to ride with the little stock one. Feels good in the summer heat. | ||
| Choyashi |
Quote: It starts better now with 40k miles on it that it ever did. Yeah, no compression and the pistons slappen around loose as a goose. Never saw an air cooled motorcycle engine worth a dam with that many miles on it! | ||
| Gamdh |
and you bought one because???? At 40K.. it also runs better than ever. There are also many here with that much mileage (or more) and have been quite happy with the way the engine runs.... Thanks for helpful input on the thread. | ||
| Crusty |
Never saw an air cooled motorcycle engine worth a dam with that many miles on it! That only says that you haven't looked at too many air cooled engines. My 1988 FLHS had 125,000 miles on it when I sold it in 1997. It was running very well. When my '98 S3-T had 35,000 miles on it I put it on the Dyno at Lancaster H-D. It made 85 H.P. and 75 Lb-Ft of torque.It had 60,000 miles on it when I traded it in. The guy who bought it to build a drag bike tore the motor down, and wear was negligible. He didn't even need to go .005" over on the bores. I know of many air cooled engines that have well over 100K and run well. Personally, I've put over 40,000 miles each on Moto Guzzis (2), BMWs (2), Harleys (3) and Buells (1 at 60K, 1 at 55K 1 at 34K and my '08 XT that only has 17K, but will have a lot more). |
