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Conchop
| | Posted on Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 09:32 am: | 
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This under 3k RPM shake is a huge flaw in an otherwise great bike. Little back-roads like the ones the Uly is supposed to excel at cannot be ridden at 3 and 4k RPM all the time. There is enough power and torque at 2500 to 3000 rpm to hold the 25 and 30 MPH speed on these tight twisty hilly little country roads, but the old lawnmower shake is completely unacceptable. I have tried every trick in the book. I am quite sure it is an over lean condition and it that is what it takes to get a bike EPA legal to market, then it is what it is.
Is there a gel filled elastomer? I heard there was one developed but it made the Buell run too smoothly. |
Growl
| | Posted on Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 12:27 pm: |
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I have found that remapping the ECM makes the Uly have much better manners in the idle through 3000 rpm range. Better but not perfect. Many people advocate switching to the lower primary gearing as a means to improve low speed dirt road and off road functioning, yet I would hate to give up the tall 5th gear... it is sweet! Especially since the engine pulls very nicely in the low ranges, it is simply a bit too "herky-Jerky". In the old days the classic solution for this situation was to increase flywheel mass... it makes the vibrations more muted and the low speed performance better. Guess what? The stock sportster 883 flywheel has considerably more mass than the lightened Buell flywheel. Anybody know if the Sportster flywheel will swap with the 2006 Uly? |
J0hn0tt0
| | Posted on Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 01:26 pm: |
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Man, I don't get it. Maybe it's because I'm young and limber, but I LOVE the shake of the Uly. You may say that having a thumper before the Uly (just got rid of my SM610) has gotten me used to a shake, but I rode a V-Strom for most of my 2 year riding career and those bikes are as smooth as a baby's bottom. The vibe adds character and LIFE to the bike. To me, it's almost therapeutic. |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 06:03 pm: |
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To me, it's almost therapeutic.
Agree completely. If it was bone jarring ALL the time, I wouldn't like it much, but it's only at idle or really low RPMs that it shakes.
At speed, it's smoothish. The vibrations are low frequency rather than a high frequency buzz. THAT would get annoying.
It's like a 1978 Trans Am with more aggressive cams. Rumble at the stoplight and angry delight at the twist of the throttle.
I guess I have a spongier ass than most. |
Etennuly
| | Posted on Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 09:12 pm: |
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I guess I have a spongier ass than most.
Why do you set yourself up like that? |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 09:20 pm: |
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I yam what I yam.  |
Conchop
| | Posted on Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 04:51 pm: |
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Anyway you cut it, A flaw is a flaw. The relentless pursuit of perfection is not just a Japanese thing. If the buzz bugs me, it is a flaw. A glaring flaw because I bought the Uly to be a back road bad ass, not a back road marital aid!
I reckon for 5 or 6 K$ more, I could have bought a GS. They don't buzz - kind of suck - sure are ugly - but smoother than a baby's butt.
I'll fix this Uly yet. |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 05:41 pm: |
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Do the 9 swap. Problem solved.
If you do MOST of your riding off road, "re-gear" your bike for the majority of your riding.
If you had a sport bike that your rode mostly on short, twisty tracks, you'd swap out the sprockets to maximize drive out of the corners rather than top speed.
The Uly is no different.
It's not an expensive fix. Sure a lot less than a GS. |
Skinstains
| | Posted on Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 06:51 pm: |
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I rode a 1200GS and hated it. Try before you buy, for sure. |
Choyashi
| | Posted on Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 07:44 pm: |
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The Uly probably is too big and heavy
for real offroad riding, but the GS is
like going trail riding on a Goldwing.
Especially with giant suitcase size
aluminum "Paniers"!
What ever that word means!!! |
Dr_greg
| | Posted on Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 09:38 pm: |
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quote:Especially with giant suitcase size
aluminum "Paniers"!
What ever that word means!!!
Hey, that's a French word meaning "side bags/cases on any kind of two-wheeled vehicle..."
Or at least I think so. Same term on a pushbike.
Oh, and it's "panniers"...you're welcome!
--Doc |
Conchop
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 12:06 pm: |
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Guys, when I said back road riding, I meant small paved roads. They look something like what you might imagine an English or Irish farm lane- except they can go very steep in places. Ideal 2nd gear speed and sometimes the Uly has to dip down to 2500 to 3000 rpm range, BUZZ CITY in the country.
I think I will do the XB9 primary swap. Nothing like spending more of my own money to fix an issue that should not be an issue! |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 12:20 pm: |
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If you're dipping down to 2500-3000 in 2nd, you just aren't going fast enough.
The problem is YOUR's. I never had a problem. Thousands of others don't.
You can't expect the company to fix a problem the majority aren't having. It's your problem, spend your money to fix it and make it the bike that's better for you.
I'm pretty sure that the rest of us aren't riding the specific roads YOU are riding. Pretty sure that mine was perfect for 99.9% of where I rode mine. |
Hangetsu
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 01:10 pm: |
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09 Uly
60% Rocky Mountain Twisties
25% Super Slab
15% Dirt Forest Service roads
No gear swap, no problem
Never ridden anything more fun or versatile |
Froggy
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 01:18 pm: |
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Another one here fine with the stock gearing. If anything, I would like taller gearing for the slab. |
Conchop
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 09:55 am: |
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I'M SURE ON YOUR WIDE OPEN WIMP ROADS, ALL IS WELL!
LOL - If you were to ride on anything challenging - it may serve you well to slow down in places. Otherwise, it's a long way down the mountain.
No chicken strips on my back tire! |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 10:26 am: |
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You need to ride with Barker and me.
I don't think we lack for "challenging" roads.
You ought to see us on dirty roads. |
Hughlysses
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 10:35 am: |
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Conchop- Before you go to the 9 primary, see threads on Treadmark's "square idle" ECM update. Several have said this dramatically improves the low-RPM behavior. |
Conchop
| | Posted on Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 09:39 pm: |
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Does it work on a 08???
COme home to wv! |
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