| Author | Message | ||
     Chrisgrant |
 Finally getting some rumble on my '08 Uly and man I can't wait. Its gonna feel like Christmas a little early this year. I bought a muffler on ebay and its being shipped directly to Kevin for the Drummer treatment. Anyone put one on their '08? Any issues, any advise? | ||
| Freak |
had a vance and hines on my 2000 x1 and a jardine on my 2004 firebolt, loved both of them. they sounded great, have not put anything on my uly yet.looking at the jardine just because i know how good they sound. merry x mas early to you  | ||
| Nevrenuf |
let me know how it goes chris. i don't know of anyone who's changed out there muffler on the 08 yet. | ||
| Hooper |
Yeah, I'm thinking this might be in my future too - I love the sound of the Uly when you really gun it and race off - that throaty grunt sounds like no other bike - but the stocker is just a bit too quiet at idle. It seems like there isn't a quick, buy-it-and-bolt-it-on replacement - is there? The next question is, what kind of remapping do you have to do and what kind of equipment does THAT take (for an '06)? My next addition? Armored, heated gloves from WarmNSafe. I went out this weekend for a few hours in 32 degree sunny weather, and my digits were not happy, even with the heated grips. But I digress... | ||
| Tipsymcstagger |
I've got a Drummer on my '08. Ridden about 10,000 miles with it. It's coming off when I get a chance. I'm tired of listening to it pop on deceleration. Tipsy | ||
| Chrisgrant |
I heard that you can sometimes get into the early '08 ecm to remap and get rid of the decel popping. Mine is a Sept. 07 mfg date. Who knows, I don't have the software or hardware to even try, if I knew how. | ||
| Hooper |
Is it that there just isn't the innovation and technology out there for us XBers? I understand that the underslung technology imparts limitations on what we can get into, but there are a ton of aftermarket pipes for V-twins... ...are we just...different? Sniff... | ||
| Tipsymcstagger |
I heard that you can sometimes get into the early '08 ecm to remap and get rid of the decel popping. July '07 production date. Been down that road. No dice. Tipsy | ||
| Jammin_joules |
I would be surprised if anyone gets more torque or horsepower over 4-6,000 rpm than the stock muffler. You may gain peak rpm power, but that is all. We've tuned and tuned, seen all sorts of pipes and mufflers. We race Buells too, the stock gated muffler has physics on its side. Other mufflers are lighter, sure, look better, perhaps, and can give better flow for the high end. Sound -- hands down there are lots of better options. But over the entire range, and in the mostly used range of 2,500-5,500 - well, show me the calibrated dyno charts of before and after when the dyno is not being used to justify the tune. ~jammer | ||
| Werewulf |
i will have to agree with you on the muffler thing.... its hard to improve on a well tuned stocker.. my bike was a little quicker after changing the exhaust, due the reduced weight.. reduced weight of my wallet, that is... | ||
| Quintssp |
I have a Drummer on my 08 and love it. Yes it pops but with earplugs in its not bad. | ||
| Tipsymcstagger |
I have a Drummer on my 08 and love it. Yes it pops but with earplugs in its not bad. I guess everyone has a different level of tolerance. My '08 has just over 11K miles. I've ridden maybe 50 of those miles without earplugs. The throatiness sounds great. The deceleration popping sounds like shit. Back to stock for me. Tipsy | ||
| Chrisgrant |
What's causing the decel popping? | ||
| Tipsymcstagger |
What's causing the decel popping? Find a comfortable chair, get a tub of popcorn and Google motorcycle deceleration popping. Tipsy | ||
| Bartimus |
LOL, nice one Tipsy! Decel popping is caused by a lean condition... When you change out your exhaust, it starts breathing easier, and the already lean '08 ECM does NOT compensate for this condition. I've gone down this same road, and took my aftermarket pipe off around 6000 miles. Bart | ||
| Ratbuell |
To answer Hooper's question above - I have a Drummer on my 06 UlyX, with a homebrew 07-up "opened" inner airbox (took a 1" wood bit to it for more flow), stock ECM, and it doesn't pop on decel even in this cool / cold weather. Every *once* in a while I'll get a pop, but usually just a burble like it should be. Of course, the *first* time I rode it with the muffler on, I rode 2 hours on the highway, steady-throttle, to relearn the AFV. Seems to have worked. Now, my S1W with unstuffed V&H muffler? THAT had decel popping regardless of jetting. Hopefully (too cold to ride it now) my recently-acquired Buell race exhaust will fix that I digress...but I know what decel popping is. I don't notice much performance change, if any, with the Drummer. The stock muffler is truly a marvel...I just wanted to hear more than wind noise, without being annoying. The Drummer has a great sound IMO - low frequency, a nice rumble, not an annoying drag-pipe crackle. Again...just my opinion | ||
| Hangetsu |
Interesting conversation here. I too was once of the opinion (like so many others here) that after-market pipe or muffler "must" be better than stock. I just picked up a shiny new 09 Uly in October and the first thing on my mind was "NEW PIPE - MORE POWER - BETTER SOUND, YEAH!" Well, after sitting down with Jammer (see post above)and looking through several dyno charts, I had to question my impulses - and I'm sure his parts department would have been very happy to order and install any system I desired. Still not totally convinced though, I kept researching the various options out there and stumbled into a pretty honest after-market exhaust comparo by American Sportbike. They made a thorough study of pretty much every slip-on and complete exhaust system available for Buell XBs. The comparo is complete with detailed write-ups and dyno graphs for every pipe tested. Out of all pipes tested only the Buell Race Pipe, the Micron, and the Drummer SS gave any notable horsepower increase - we're talking 2 to 3 hp max in the 5000+ RPM ranges and most pipes showed a HP decrease from stock. Better sound? - maybe, but is that worth $300 - $800? Not to me. And in each of these cases, for every HP gain in the higher RPM ranges, there were equal losses in the range the Uly is meant to be ridden. It's just food for thought I guess, but I would think that a company with the racing pedigree, the engineering resources, and the focused intent to make the highest performing and real-world ridable motorcycles on the road as Buell has, just might have gotten the exhaust thing down about as good as it's going to get. My opinion, for what it's worth. A- | ||
| Froggy |
Yep, same problem on the 1125. To date all the after market mufflers look ugly and reduce power. I did the works on my bike including the full system Micron, but I did it for the looks and sound, the extra 5hp or whatever was just a bonus | ||
| Desert_uly |
As a satisfied owner of an 08 I did have a desire for a Drummer or Spec Ops exhaust, not only to wake up the neighbors when leaving for work but for possibly a slight performance improvement. I appreciate the input from all,you have saved me many dollars. I'll stick with the stock unit for now. | ||
| Hangetsu |
Desert - Go to the American Sportbike website and look for their exhaust comparison. It's very comprehensive and unbiased. I think you and anyone else out there Jones'n to drop $$$ on a pipe will find it very enlightening. Cheers. A- | ||
| Firstbatch |
Have tried a few pipes on the '06 Uly and will be sticking with the Buell Race Pipe.....shame Buell discontinued as it is a good looking pipe and works real well with just enough sound to know you are on a American v twin but not annoying enough to bother on a long trip. Hooked up to a Race ECM it produces great throttle response with no lean symptoms. Seems simple enough that a mfg should step in and offer it in the aftermarket....someone, somewhere has the design and tooling to make the pipe. Does anyone know what vendor/mfg made the Race Pipe for Buell??? | ||
| Chrisgrant |
I feel that I have plenty of power. I'm looking for a better sound than wind noise. That quiet pipe doesn't let you know that you are riding an American V-twin, and it should have that feel. I chose this bike for a few reasons and one is that I wanted an American bike. After riding with another buell with an aftermarket muffler, I found that for me its worth the money to try one. I just don't want to loose power. | ||
| Ratbuell |
+1 on the American Sport Bike comparo. Al is a true straight shooter, and is a totally honest guy. Whether it helps him 'market' a part or not, he'd rather see you get what you want for *your* needs. To the folks with stock pipes...they will open up a little with time and get a little throatier. I'd probably still be running mine, holding out for a Buell race pipe..but I stumbled on my Drummer (smokin' used deal on ebay) so I figured what the heck. | ||
| Wheelybueller |
This is my experiment,maybe in futility. My opinion the Supertrap was/is one of the best sounding pipes on a Buell. When properly tuned they make great torque as well,at least on a tube frame.the collector was donated by an old tube frame header. If nothing else,something to do in the COLD Maine winters     | ||
| Hooper |
Wherever that is, I want to spend a Friday night there. | ||
| Wheelybueller |
The Humble Man Cave. You Guys are always welcome The password is cold Sam Adams  | ||
| Hooper |
Yo Wheelybueller - what part of Maine? I hang out in Center Lovell a couple times a year during the summer and fall. Generally, I rent a H-D in Manchester, NH, but I'm thinking of leaving a bike up there so I can just fly into Portland, rent a car through Windham, Naples, Bridgeton, and Sweden, and roll up into Lovell. I frickin' love Maine. | ||
| Wheelybueller |
I'm in Knox,Drive until you are lost and take a left. 30 miles South of Bangor,30 miles East of Augusta. Naples, Bridgeton, is nice,you are close to the KANK,and White mountains of NH. | ||
| Xbimmer |
I'm waiting to see how Johnboy777's project turns out: http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/142 838/410332.html?1227213811 Hurry up Johnboy! |
