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Johnboy777
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I rode around last winter on some rock salted roads and my muffler needs to be repainted badly (lucky for me I'm a bad painter).

Has anyone used POR 15 Heat Resistant Paint on their muffler.





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Raceautobody
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Standard POR15 is not UV stable. It had to be topcoated if exposed to sunlight. Their heat resistant paint maybe differant. Before using it make sure with it is UV resistant.

Al
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984gasm
Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Could you use high heat spray paint? Like the BBQ paint sold in hardware stores? May be easier.

http://bicsuperstore.com/BarbecueStove-Spray-Paint /M/B000RMO23M.htm
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Seanp
Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ask Odie what he uses when he makes his Special OPS pipes. I bought one from him that looked rough when he got it but looked brand new when he was done with it.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

""Ask Odie what he uses when he makes his Special OPS pipes""

good idea... I probably should just get it Jet Hot coated black, but I'm too damn cheap.

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Tipsymcstagger
Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Drummer uses "Dupli-Color High Heat with ceramic, Black DH 1602."

Seems to hold up well.

Tipsy
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Sanchez
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 08:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I touched mine up with bbq grill paint from Home Depot.
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Pso
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 08:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do you folks remove the muffler or just tape off and spray or brush on?
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Sanchez
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had mine off anyway because I was swapping mufflers. It's pretty easy to get on and off.
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984gasm
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sanchez, how's that paint holding up? I need to do touch mine up this winter.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

""Do you folks remove the muffler or just tape off and spray or brush on?""

I plan to just tape it off, sand and paint - my thought is, that it appears with the ceramic paint at least, it needs to be baked. So I can bake it on the bike with a nice long ride after I paint it.

Or paint it when the wife is out and use her oven

If it doesn't work, I can get it Jet Coated this winter and be done with it.

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Bosh
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I touched mine up with bbq grill paint from Home Depot

I did the same about three years ago (actually, I painted the whole muffler). It's just starting to look a little faded.
Time for another coat pretty soon.
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Tginnh
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 07:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Drummer uses "Dupli-Color High Heat with ceramic, Black DH 1602."

Has anyone used this paint and baked it in momma's oven? The learning video says to bake on for 2 hrs at 300 degrees and that some smoke and/or smell is likely and desirable. If so, how much does the process smoke/smell? I could probably get away with a little smoke, but if I stink up the whole house for days on end, I might find myself sleeping outside for a while.

My guess is this is an essential step in the curing process and that curing the paint on the bike might not do the trick. Has anyone used this paint without performing the baking step and if so, has it held up?

Thanks.
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Xbimmer
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I used the Dupli Color a couple of weeks ago to repaint my RSS, the original paint had faded along with blistering and peeling underneath where it's close to the front pipe. I bought the can to do my Drummer and stock muffler but never have got around to it.

I let it dry in the sun when it was 95 degrees out, and the heat from the exhaust seems to have cured it just fine. The original paint blistered and burned away almost immediately, this stuff shows no sign of doing so.

I'll be doing my muffler with Dupli Color next time I pull it off.
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Rahbert
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wonder if the High Heat would work on the header pipes?
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Scooter808484
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dupli-Color High Heat Paint for me. Hard to tell how well it's holding up, 'cause it's all covered up with mud.

I've used that paint on header pipes on my Road King, results not as good. It mostly sticks, but up around the ports it's too hot. On the HD they were covered up with heat shields, but it might look pretty bad on the Uly.
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Tginnh
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry if I'm being obtuse, but what is "Jet Hot coated?" Is it the same as ceramic coated? I'm also looking to gain some heat dissipation (isn't everyone) from the headers and the Dupli-Color claims to do that.
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Luftkoph
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I used that dupli color with ceramic and it faded out from the heat in spots,maybe just have to do it as winter maintanance every year
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Tipsymcstagger
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry if I'm being obtuse, but what is "Jet Hot coated?

Jet-Hot Coatings

Tipsy
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Tginnh
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Luftkoph - did you bake the high heat Dupli-color at 300 degrees for a couple hours per the instructions? Also, did you notice any heat dissipation?
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Tginnh
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 03:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks, Tipsymcstagger - I just submitted an online form for a quote.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

IIRC, Odie said Jet-Coat was charging $120 to coat his muffler inside and outside in the 1300 Sterling finish.

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Luftkoph
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey tginnh
no bake would not fit in my oven I ran it on the bike to heat it up.not sure what you mean by heat dissipation.
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Tginnh
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Luftkoph - "heat dissipation" - I misused the term in its technical meaning. Let me rephrase: did you notice any less heat coming of the headers?
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Tginnh
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2008 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just got a quote back from Jet-Coat:

We'd charge $230 to coat your HEADERS AND MUFFLER(OD ONLY) inside and outside in the 1300 Sterling finish. Add $60 for the matte black, semi gloss black, and grey. Add $100 for blue, red or any other color we offer. (only available in NC). We'll need them here for about 5-7 business days plus shipping time back. If the parts are chrome or nickel plated, add $50 to the total and 2 days for stripping. Return shipping with a new box and new packaging would be about $34.

Come winter, so long as my finances are still in the black, I'm doing this. Thanks for the feedback and postings to all. I would have never found this on my own.
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Xl_cheese
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2008 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm not sure how they can coat the inside of these things and expect them to hold up?

The surface has to be prepped just right. Prepping the inside of header and mufflers is pretty much impossible.
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Luftkoph
Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2008 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey tginnh
I only painted the muffler so I can't answer your question on the heat
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Jlnance
Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2008 - 05:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We'd charge $230 to coat your HEADERS AND MUFFLER...

Most of that cost is to coat the headers. If you just want the muffler done, it's much cheaper. I think I paid them $55.

The muffler is outside only. The headers are inside and outside, which is what makes the difference in cost.
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