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Allthegoodonesrtkn
Posted on Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This white stuff was on the inside of my clutch cover when I changed the oil in my 08 xt. It was almost like a grease, really thick, and just on the cover. Any ideas? this is the second oil change for the bike, and the first time this stuff wasn't there.

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Bosh
Posted on Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Weather must be getting cooler in your neck of the woods. Water \ condensation.

(Message edited by bosh on September 27, 2008)
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Tipsymcstagger
Posted on Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

More info.

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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Something else to consider, shorter rides also = more condensation - the engine heat doesn't have a chance to burn it off like on a longer ride. Check your vent line just to be safe, and your cable boots...but I wouldn't stress over it unless you hear whining / grinding.
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Allthegoodonesrtkn
Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 - 12:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks for the link! Im calling bull#$@$ on this problem. If water is getting into the primary through the clutch cable and this is the reason for the white stuff, then this will be the last buell I own. I ride in the rain very often so this is a big problem for me.
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Allthegoodonesrtkn
Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

adventure bike that cant get wet. LOL. I'll call buell and see what they say about this.
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Neurorider
Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 - 12:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check the boot on your clutch cable adjustment rubber boot cover thingy on the front of the bike. If it's loose/off, the front wheel can roost water into your clutch cable and primary. Lots of us ride in the wet and even do some water crossings without white sludge-gotta be something wrong!
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The bike can get a wet as it wants. It doesn't matter what brand it is, if the boot is loose your gonna get water in there. : )
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 - 02:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Easy fix for a reasonable problem.
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Dano_12s
Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Adam,take a look at the rubber vent hose buy the rear header mine contacted the header,burned hose in half allowing water to enter crankcase. Nylon ties broke.
Replaced hose all is fine.
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Andrejs2112
Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had the same problem. Short rides in cold weather. I flushed it twice with ATF. I just filled the primary and rode it to get it up to temp and then drained it and repeated. The goo went away.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, September 28, 2008 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It doesn't *have* to be coming from a leak. Liquid (i.e. oil) draws/creates water condensation during a heat/cool cycle. It's physics; that's why there's a vent hose on the primary. If you take longer rides, the fluid will heat up enough to "burn off" the condensation liquid.

Again - IT'S NOT A MAJOR CONCERN. Relax. Ride the bike, change the fluid on schedule, and take rides as long as you can. My 55k + mile FLHP showed "white stuff" every fluid change...and I NEVER had a trans / primary problem. And yes, I ride in the rain; my bikes are transportation, not garage trophies. It's the only time my Uly gets "washed", lol.
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Red_chili
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks for the link! Im calling bull#$@$ on this problem. If water is getting into the primary through the clutch cable and this is the reason for the white stuff, then this will be the last buell I own. I ride in the rain very often so this is a big problem for me.
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adventure bike that cant get wet. LOL. I'll call buell and see what they say about this.

Wow, it don't take much to harsh your mellow, do it?



Whatcha gonna do when your intake seals fail and you need to occasionally replace rear wheel bearings and need to put dielectric grease on your 77 connector? (all of which are cheap fixes - and easy, including the intake once you learn how to hold your tongue just right)
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Khelton
Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's still BS..no matter how easy it is to fix..all these little nit$hit problems should not continue to occur with the frequency that they do, the electrical connectors, the unsat rear bearings, stator / voltage regulator...love to ride mine but these problems are mickey mouse,..the guy is just disappointed...
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Allthegoodonesrtkn
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 03:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know all bikes seem to have a problem or two that needs extra care, bearings, electrical issues, every bike has that one thing that goes bad often. But when you go and spend 13k for a bike and find out that there's water getting in the trans, its a little disappointed.
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Red_chili
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When the water is getting into the transmission due to condensation from short rides, or from an out of position rubber cover, that is hardly Buell's fault. Even Japanese motorcycles require cable adjustments.

It is a limited production, 'boutique' motorcycle for pities sake. You *could* buy another major brand and replace water pumps. Regularly. With no cheap fix or prevention. Or another brand, and replace rear drives for many thousands of dollars, after having paid MORE than $13K.

I consider the Buell fixes to be laughably cheap and easy in comparison. The VR failure can be prevented by grease. Sheesh. Pick one up used on Fleabay if it worries you. The intake seals (inherited from H-D) can be fixed for $5 and an evening and never fixed again - yes, this should be done at the factory, and I brought it up and will pursue it. The bearings, similarly. Customer support second to none in the industry. All in a modern package that is as easy to work on as anything old school.

If that is BS, I'll sprinkle a little sugar on it and have it for lunch. Pass the ketchup.
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Electraglider_1997
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You've spent a fortune on yourself over the years and yet if you go outside when it's cold you'll get cold, when it's wet you'll get wet, if you stare into the sun you'll probably go blind, if you don't eat you'll starve, and if you don't crap you'll eventually get a tummy ache. I doubt that you'll just kill yourself because of these weak points of the human body, no, you'll buy a coat, a slicker, and sunglasses, eat regularly, and sit on the pot daily. So chill and enjoy a pretty darn fine bike and ride it long enough to boil off the condensate.
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Johnboy777
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

EG, you're the best.....
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Luftkoph
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the clutch cable boot on my 72 bmw wore out and let water in @%$& thing I'l never buy another one of them dang german bikes
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Skyclad
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For the clutch cable adjuster, one more thing to do is put zip ties on both ends. Easy and adds a bit more water resistance in an area that does get a lot of water.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You seem to be missing the point here - the trans could be GENERATING the water, if you don't ride it long enough to warm it up all the way and burn off condensation. It's physics.

Curious to hear if Buell had anything to say when you called them?
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