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Treadmarks
| Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 11:17 am: |
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I wasn't shopping for bikes, but I bumped into one at the local powersports dealer last weekend and I must say...Daayyuum Maybe it's the sweet looking tardish pose, or the shape of the front end. Maybe the way those pipes stick out of the rear fender, like a double barreled 10 gauge peeking through the bushes at ya. At first I was lusting baaad. Way bad. Then the loving wife slapped me around a bit. Once I recovered from the smacking, I ran some numbers. 95/76 @ 390 lbs. for the Duc vs. 103/84 @ 425 for the Uly. Both have about .25 hp per pound. The Duc has the 6 speed but the Uly gets better mileage and had a much larger tank yielding 170-180 between fill ups vs. 100-110 for the Duc. Does anyone here have personal experience with this bike, as I may need another smacking. |
Svh
| Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 11:31 am: |
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Have not rode it but have seen a couple and they do look sweet. Wish I could have like 5 bikes |
Elf
| Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 11:52 am: |
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Here's your slap (in parts, then labor, and the #1 complaint about owning a Duc...): 600 Mile service $43.47 $266.00 12K service $119.80 $396.00 18K service (same as 6K) $94.60 $473.00 24K service $211.96 $624.00 This is just normal service for a Ducati that I found on the Web. YMMV. Desmodromic valve adjustments are spendy! Don't forget about lubing the chain! They do look HOT, though! |
Hooper
| Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 12:19 pm: |
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I have to say, I really like the Hypermotard that Roland Sands Designs customized on "American Thunder" a couple weeks ago (on Speed TV). Too small for me, however.
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Svh
| Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 01:01 pm: |
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Hooper- I agree that was the cover of Cycle World a couple of months back. Great design. RSD bikes look great most of the time. |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 01:46 pm: |
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If I was back in the market, the hypermotard would be on my short list. Thats my favorite Duc. I think its a better comparison for the 9sx though. And slap the 1125 CR in that comparison for it for a *real* eye opener. Whats the street price on those hypermotards these days? |
Royintulsa
| Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 04:11 pm: |
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Treadmarks, I think you have the best looking Uly on this forum. I would love to see what you would do with a Duc Hyper. I have a Ducati GT 1000 and love it. For some reason, even though the power specs are similar, seat of the pants says otherwise. That desmodromic engine just revs faster, higher and with less effort. |
Treadmarks
| Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 04:17 pm: |
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MSRP standard 11,995 MSRP S model 14,495 Add pipe and ECU and reports of OTD prices around 16k seem to be the norm at ducati.ms.com for S models. Classifieds were 10-11k. A once dropped standard is on ebay for 8995. Seems like some of them have the stall, stumble and popping as well. I also read stories where the idle has had to be set to 1250-1350 to drive around the stumble issues, and that they are a pita in slow traffic. Starting to sound sort of familiar. Big v-twin (L-twin) character, dealer service problems, initial expense, maintenance cost, parts cost and nowhere near the info sharing like BadWeb has. Dam they look good tho. Maybe if I get me a life size cutout and stand it up in the garage....yeah...thats the ticket. |
Treadmarks
| Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 04:40 pm: |
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Thanks Roy. Those ducks look like their hauling ass, even when they are sitting still.
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Baydog
| Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 07:56 pm: |
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The local dealer had a special event just for the rollout of the Hyper'. The salesman practically begged me to ride it so I came back the next day and did. Rode it on about a 5 mile loop chasing a guy on a Honda ST that rode like his hair was on fire. It was fun, but I was really glad to get back on my Uly for the ride home. YMMV. It just didn't do it for me. I love Ducati's but this one is way too narrow in focus for my tastes. |
Hooper
| Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 08:10 pm: |
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In Treadmarks' picture above, it sort of looks like a crazy, floppy-eared mule. I passed one on Rock Creek Parkway this evening on my way home from work - first one I've ever seen on the road, and it sounded like - surprise - a nasty Ducati. Even better, before that, I pulled up next to a woman on a red Blast in Reston, VA. THAT was priceless. We gave big waves, littlest Buell to biggest Buell. |
Rocketsprink
| Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 10:20 pm: |
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I rode one. I liked it a lot. |
Chadleys1
| Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 10:21 pm: |
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I love them, even if they are the "Bullwinkle" of the Ducati world. |
Az_m2
| Posted on Friday, August 01, 2008 - 11:13 pm: |
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Those Ducati service costs seem mild next to my Buell. Buell's are very cheap if you do your own service, but very expensive if you use a dealer. |
Chas1969
| Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 12:29 am: |
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If anyone dose their own service price is peanuts to dealer book for labor. Its half the fun to wrench in owning a bike. Even my old BMW was pretty cheap to run with parts being the only cost. Buell parts are not bad on cost. Chas |
Hooper
| Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 12:40 am: |
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$95 per hour labor in the DC area. I'll do any maintenance that I can, but there are some big things that I just don't have the tools/garage for. Pay to play. It's definitely gratifying to do your own work! |
Cityxslicker
| Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 03:11 am: |
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They wont let me demo, maybe I should quit riding my dirty muddy filthy CityX to the shop ... They know I will not be kind to it (and I could wait til it is mine, I know how to do a demo, they just dont trust me) |
Aussiexbox
| Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 03:20 am: |
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yeah I looked at one and even got a trade in price on the ugly,the dealer had his setup with a full termi pipe set and all,but man it got so out of hand,I just said thanks but no thanks,I took the 1125r for a run of less than a mile(Couldn't rie it to cramped)so I came back and jumped on a Hyper,man talk about fun,these things will take your licence in no time cause they're just plain silly.And yes the Roland Sands machine is downright cool,loved it when one of the bike mags did a write up on it. (Message edited by aussiexbox on August 02, 2008) |
Florida_lime
| Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 03:35 am: |
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Treadmarks, I have had an S since they came out. It has the 2-1 Termignoni, plus a few other Ducati Performance pieces. I absolutely love it. It is different from the Uly, for sure. I use the Uly for everyday commuting, plus trips to N.C. Only problem I had with the Hypermotard was a loosened ground strap on the battery. And before anyone chimes in about poor dealer prep, I did the original prep, and it WAS tight. Loctited now. I wish my Uly has been as trouble-free, but it does have 5 times the mileage ! Currently at 21,000 miles, and going to the local HD/Buell dealer tomorrow for my 2nd round of fan problems. No popping or running issues with the Hypermotard, but the fuelling is more sensitive than the Buell at low speeds. Nothing that you don't adapt to quickly, however. I'd offer you a ride, but I brought it up to N.C. in June, and currently keep it there. I have a place 10 minutes from the Cherohala Skyway, and about 30 minutes to Deals Gap. Florida roads are a waste for such an animal. And Florida roads eat the Pirelli Diablo IIIs WAY too fast. |
Treadmarks
| Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 06:30 am: |
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Some Ducati Bling-Bling: Set of racing camshafts with new profiles to optimize engine performance at medium-to-high rpm. The kit comes with an ECU calibrated for use with these camshafts and with the complete racing exhaust system (part no. 96450808B and 96451608B). Matching these parts ensures considerable increase of the bike's performance. Stated power increase was measured on a vehicle with this configuration. Our Price: $700.00 2 into 2 carbon silencer kit with titanium endcaps. This system is homologated for road use and complies with EU noise and emission standards. Our Price: $1,738.60 Cross-mounted aluminum steering damper with adjuster knob to tailor damper response to your riding style for improved front end stability. SKU code #96760408B Our Price: $652.67 "Lower plate made in anodized aluminum; protects engine against debris and possible shocks." Adds to the hypermotard aggressive look, very useful when pushing the bike to the limit. Our Price: $222.20 ideal for holding the rear soft bag (part no. 96760908B) and for using the multipurpose elastic net (part no. 967415AAA). Its black color, size and finishing make it a perfect match for the bike's style without disturbing the aesthetics. SKU code #96760508B Our Price: $218.50 Racing seat with a special profile, designed for a more forward riding stance, that results in improved handling and control, like in the racing supermotard bikes. The padding and the special fabric used ensure high comfort level and prevent rider from sliding under braking or when tackling even the most demanding turns. Our Price: $225.99 |
Treadmarks
| Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 06:40 am: |
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Thanks Scott, Good to hear some positive feedback. The more I look at that bike the meaner it seems. Somebody SLAP me. |
Greenamp
| Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 07:38 am: |
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You should get one man. But you gotta keep the Uly so that when one of those, "Should I get a Uly or a [this other bike here]?", threads pops up you can talk about how you own a Ducati for fun but always go back to the Uly afterwards. (Message edited by greenamp on August 02, 2008) (Message edited by greenamp on August 02, 2008) |
Az_m2
| Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 08:51 am: |
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That HM is a sweet looking bike and I bet it's a blast around town and for canyon carving. Would still need the Uly for road trips though. |
Treadmarks
| Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 09:10 am: |
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Dayuum, you guys are gonna get me in trouble with the boss. I'll take the softail by the Duck Stealer this morning, just to see the numbers. |
Electraglider_1997
| Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 11:41 am: |
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Tread, You need to walk away from that for awhile and it's demon grip will fade. Honestly, falling prey to the latest and greatest is a sure ticket to the poor farm. Recently a fellow BadWebber was selling off his ULY and all these farkles he had accumulated. He was ULY rich and money shy. He appeared to me to be like one of those Home Shopping Network zombies that purchases everything he sees and never even opens the packages when they arrive. One thing I do like are those turn signal hand guards. Seems that Buell should have incorporated that because of the Buell philosophy of parts doing double duty and all. |
Reepicheep
| Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 12:26 pm: |
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Thats still a great bike, but I think I'd rather have a 9sx and a used dual sport for that same amount. IMHO of course. If I had more liquid income it wouldn't matter, the cost isn't crazy. |
Dentguy
| Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 05:32 pm: |
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Here's your slap (in parts, then labor, and the #1 complaint about owning a Duc...): 600 Mile service $43.47 $266.00 12K service $119.80 $396.00 18K service (same as 6K) $94.60 $473.00 24K service $211.96 $624.00 This is just normal service for a Ducati that I found on the Web. YMMV. Desmodromic valve adjustments are spendy! Don't forget about lubing the chain! They do look HOT, though! I know you got this from the internet, but just trying to get it right before people start saying it is so expensive. There is no 18k service(same as 6k). After the 1k(600 mile), the services are every 12k(7500 miles). As for the prices. The 1k(600 mile) on my Uly at the dealer was $300.00 + parts. The Ducati is $239.00 parts and labor here. The chain? I personally think it is silly to base a bike purchase on if it has a chain or belt. It's just a chain. Lube it, adjust it once in a while and enjoy. I know it may be more maintenance with a chain, but I have seen more belts break than chains. I don't want to get in a debate with anyone on which is better and why. Treadmarks, let us know if (or when) you get it. (Message edited by dentguy on August 02, 2008) |
Sekalilgai
| Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 06:05 pm: |
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Hey Treadmarks Does this mean you've reached farkle limit on the Uly ? Can't wait to see what you'll do to the HM.....Deathray II ! |
Royintulsa
| Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 06:06 pm: |
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One other advantage - no engine heat. |
Old_mil
| Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 10:12 am: |
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It's a great looking bike, one of the best sounds in motorcycling. That having been said, it's a bike with a limited range d/t a small fuel tank and no bags. That makes it a Uly that you can only use for day rides in town. If you're looking for an offroad bike, go with the KTM. If you're looking for a bike to use for day rides in town, I'd much rather have a Monster or a Cityx. As nice as it looks, I think the HM (and the BMW HP2, for that matter) are hammers without nails. |
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