| Author | Message | ||
     Electraglider_1997 |
This guy has some interesting and high powered claims. I've already emailed him. I figure if he can do this to the Blast then he certainly knows of the ULY. http://www.ethanolproducer.com/article.jsp?article _id=4524 33% increase HP would put the ULY at 113 hp at rear wheel....WOW!! 13% torque increase. What's the tq of ULY? If it sounds to good to be true, then it probably is. (Message edited by electraglider_1997 on July 29, 2008) | ||
| Froggy |
It would be awesome, i would love to run E85, I just wish there were stations near me that sold it! | ||
| Hughlysses |
Just remember, it's likely much easier to do a carb'ed Blast than an FI bike like the Uly. You have to flow a LOT more E85 relative to straight gas. | ||
| Froggy |
The basics things needed for conversion would be bigger fuel injectors, special treated tank and fuel lines to prevent the E85 from eating everything, and then proper ECM tuning for the new fuel. It's not that hard to do, so I assume it would be a lot easier to convert the Blast, as its carbed. | ||
| Red_chili |
Seems strange to me that claims are being made that adding alcohol would INCREASE power... without changing compression ratio, etc. ??? | ||
| Froggy |
Yea i am not sure what they are doing to get more power, i know GM gets more power by adjusting the timing to take advantage of the higher octane in E85, then retarding back to normal when you put gasoline in. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I saw some fluff piece on the discovery channel that was talking to engineers from Saab. They claimed they could make a dedicated E85 car that was faster and got better economy, but I don't under how either. There is just not as much power in a gallon of ethanol as there is in a gallon of gasoline. Faster I can buy, as you can compress it more and keep it cooler. But not better economy. Maybe it's possible with crazy high compression though... I'm no expert. | ||
| Longdog_cymru |
The way I understand it, when Methanol burns, it produces oxygen. That's where the extra power comes from. | ||
| Longdog_cymru |
Here is some info on methanol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methanol_fuel and here is the info on E85 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E85 | ||
| Reepicheep |
Cool. Sounds like the increased efficiency of being able to run much higher compressions (due to the 100 or 105 octane of E85) overcomes the lower potential energy, for a net gain. And that article references the flex fuel Saab 9-5, which is what I saw on that fluff show. They said it consumes the same amount of fuel, but turns faster lap times. So the only remaining downside to Ethanol is that "factory earth" has a several million year head start and stockpile of petroleum, and was purely solar and geothermal powered. Whereas ethanol has to be made in real time and takes real power in addition to the "solar corn feeding". | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Here is the email I got back from this Tony guy that has the E-85 conversion kits. Apparently he has an aversion to capital letters and spell check. I've emailed him back to explain that the ULY has fuel injection. I've also asked where he is located and whether he has a website. By the looks of his spelling, I'm thinking he's located in Nigeria. craig,i cant give you the information on how the ALKYHAWG works.that would be giving away protected trade secrets. each kit is custom built to the customers specifications.some clients want more power than the basic kit,but its possible to bolt an ALKYHAWG onto any h-d engine.kits start at $2000.most customers prefer to send their own heads in for modification and save a little money.each kit contains a modified carb,gaskets and appropriate spark plugs.i do provide online assistance ,if you need it.my business is performance. we build drag and road race engine,heads and transmissions.the street packages we offer,ALKYHAWG and GAZZHAWG, are for customers wanting more power and better mileage on the road.we offered these at the requests of customers.if you decide to convert your bike ,iw will go over a list of questions and specifications prior to starting on your kit.if i havent covered everythign you wish to know, fel free to ask in deatail.we strive for satisfactipon. thanks, tony (Message edited by electraglider_1997 on August 01, 2008) | ||
| Darthane |
He might strive for satisfaction, but apparently 'professionalism' got lost somewhere in the rushes. | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
craig, i am in tennessee.right now we dont have a website.we have always been a word of mouth type shop.with all the requests for a site we are working on that now.converting a fuel injection bike should be no big problem.there have been a lot of conversions over the years,some with efi.the downside to these were bad mileage,overheating and bad performance in general.a corectly calibrated control module for your efi would permit e85 use, but it would take a set of ALKYHAWG heads to make it efficient.i know of 4 after maket control modules that should work.i have only had efi requests since the interviews were published so i havent spent a lot of time working out an efi package.i would be glad to do one though.every kit is basically custom built to the clients needs and specification anyways.how plentiful is e85 where you ride? tony E-85 is very easy to come by in Omaha. Actually, it would be nice if Buell made the ULY able to run on Regular, 10% gasahol, E-85, or Premium. An adventure touring bike should be able to operate on any fuel available. (Message edited by electraglider_1997 on August 01, 2008) | ||
| Electraglider_1997 |
Who do you suppose anonymous is on this link? Sure spells like Tony. http://www.bikernewsonline.com/2007/05/orange-coun ty-choppers-to-build-e85.htm |
