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Xb12lp
| Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 09:45 am: |
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Has anyone out there tried the wave rotor that Al, at American sport bike sells. I want to know if it will stop the pulsation problem......Thanks |
Froggy
| Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 10:08 am: |
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I just got mine put on my blue rims, but haven't put on the bike yet. It's the pads that cause the pulsing, not the rotors. I also got the Lyndall gold pads, they allegedly reduce pulsing. |
Jlnance
| Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 10:25 am: |
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I want to know if it will stop the pulsation problem. A new rotor will stop the pulsing. However, as Froggy mentioned, the root cause of the pulsing is the pads leaving deposits on the rotor. A new rotor will eventually get deposits on it as well, wave or not. People have reported good results getting rid of the pulsing by: 1 - Switch to non-OEM pads. Lyndal Gold Plus (sold by American Sport Bike) seem to be the favorite, though some people don't like them. Any of the pads Al sells should be better than the OEM ones. 2 - Get a brillow pad and clean your rotor aggressively. I don't believe you need to remove the rotor to do this, but it's probably easier if you remove the wheel. |
Chadhargis
| Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 10:50 am: |
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The stock rotor is prone to warping. I have the Lyndalls pads, and used them with the stock rotor. It got rid of the pulsing. I have another set of wheels with the Braking Wave Rotor Al sells, and I can honestly say, it works better than the stocker. Don't know why, but it does. Pads seem to bite it better. I recently put my stock wheels back on, and developed a pluse again. The rotor looks clean, but after a couple of years of hard running, it may be a bit warped. I'll see if it's the rotor or the pads when I put the other wheels back on. |
Jlnance
| Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 11:00 am: |
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I'll see if it's the rotor or the pads when I put the other wheels back on. I don't think that is going to tell you much. The problem with the pads is that they leave deposits on the rotors. Switching pads does not instantly cure the problem, it takes time to rub the deposits off the rotors. |
Barker
| Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 11:59 am: |
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Alotta buellers love the lyndalls but I can get the ebc HH pads cheaper. I have always loved the EBC HH pads on my niner. I have some ready for ole shakey brakey (my uly). (Message edited by barker on July 02, 2008) |
Treadmarks
| Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 12:24 pm: |
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I had the pulsing with the stock rotor. Lyndalls help clear it up. I switched to the wave rotor and ebc hh pads and the bite was too aggressive for me, so switched back to lyndalls on the wave. For some reason the wave rotor and lyndall golds have a really solid feel, much better than the stock rotor. |
Barker
| Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 01:37 pm: |
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ITYF: If you go w/ ebchh or lyndalls you will get the angry bees following every where. |
Dnveloman
| Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 01:44 pm: |
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I have pulsing at 8700 miles. I put the Lyndalls on last night... going for a test ride tonight... I'll let you know how it goes. PS-- I talked to my HD/Buell dealer and he said--someone probably bumped your rotor. Right. |
Barker
| Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 02:17 pm: |
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"bumped your rotor."
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Dnveloman
| Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 03:37 pm: |
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That's what I thought. I assured him no one bumped my rotor, explaining it was recessed within the outer edge of the rim and that neither had a mark on it. Even though I told him what bike it was, he didn't even know it was a perimeter disc... but he was willing to diagnose. What was the "angry bees" reference? Am I in for a surprise? |
Barker
| Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 04:40 pm: |
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bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
Chadhargis
| Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 05:27 pm: |
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You'll find out about the buzz when you apply the brakes. It's cool! |
Gtmg
| Posted on Wednesday, July 02, 2008 - 09:19 pm: |
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Exactly what is everyone cleaning their rotors with a metal brillo pad???? |
Dnveloman
| Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 08:06 am: |
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Took the test ride last night with the new Lyndall Golds. I have to admit, I thought the rotor was warped and people were nuts saying it was the stock pads... HOWEVER-- My stops are smooth as silk now! Didn't even clean the rotors (although I'm sure I burnt any residue off last night). The buzz is trick! Glad I knew about it ahead of time. I'm a Lyndall convert. |
Sweatmark
| Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 01:35 pm: |
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Guess I need some Lyndalls too. I bought a used Braking wave rotor that was already pre-gunkified with pad deposits. Put it on my 2nd set of wheels and went from smooth brake performance with OE rotor and OE pads to scary pulsation with wave rotor and OE pads. The pulsation has mellowed a bit with light rotor cleaning, but seems the Lyndalls will be the next step to solving the problem. |
Adrian_8
| Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 10:57 pm: |
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I cleaned my rotor with a four inch disc grinder with a knotted wire wheel...the pad residue was tough to get off even with that much power...I used sandpaper on the inside where the disc could not reach...it has lessened the pulsation...I know pulsating brakes as I am on my 3rd rotor...and I thought "what the hell" ...Lyndall Golds really put a warping on one of my rotors. |
Jameslaugesen
| Posted on Friday, July 04, 2008 - 03:00 am: |
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Hello everyone, a loooong time since I've posted or even visited badweb, but interesting to see generally the same topics are around :-) As lots have already said the pulsating is caused by deposits left by the crap stock pads. It's extremely unlikely to warp a ztl rotor, unless maybe faulty, they're fully floating, well cooled, inset, rah rahr rah. You could only warp one if something is bent/out of alignment, or jammed bushing(s) stop the rotor from floating, thus warping under heat (expansion) and load. Keep the front wheel clean and replace the rubbish stock pads asap and they wont warp. |
Bearly
| Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 10:24 pm: |
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I've never had a brake problem one, but I would like to try that rotor. |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 10:52 pm: |
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When not riding long interstate runs, I like to take out the ear plugs on twisty runs just so I can hear the "bees". It's really cool. |
Bearly
| Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 11:22 pm: |
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Does it make that noise just when you clamp on it or all the time. (my 11 has a little of that) |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 11:29 pm: |
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Only when you put the clampers on, but the level of buzz is dependent upon speed and the amount of brake force. I use the sound to give me some feed back on brake force. |
Bearly
| Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 11:42 pm: |
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$300 smackers, Ouch! Maybe end of the the month. |