| Author | Message | ||
     Jmhinkle |
Even though she sits in the garage, she is officially traded in. Friday being the last day of the month really got my Ducati dealer antsy to come off a brand new '07 1100S Multistrada. They gave me an amazing deal for the trade. My Credit Union even stayed open late just for me to get the deal done. I pick up my new bike on Tuesday since they are closed on Monday. They gave me the weekend to return the Uly to stock. I have contacted many of you about the farkles that were requested. Three things have not been asked about if you are in need. Service manual, '08 heat deflectors, and underseat Buell bag are not spoken for. One other item is available in a new format. That is the full luggage rack set up. I'm keep my luggage because it can be used on the Multi with racks from twistedthrottle.com. Drop me a PM and make an offer. Been interesting guys, keep up the good job on the website. Feel free to drop me a pm if you have questions about ECMSpy cables that you bought or want to buy. (Message edited by jmhinkle on December 01, 2007) | ||
| Florida_lime |
Joel, Good luck with the Multistrada; it was on my list of possibilities when I got the Uly. I work P/T at a Ducati dealer, and planned to get the Hypermotard S, and didn't want all my eggs in one basket.  The Hypermotard uses the same basic engine set-up, with the airbox being the only difference. The motor is a blast, of course with the Hypermotard being even lighter, that doesn't hurt either.  Good move on going for the S, Ohlins suspension is a plus. Parts and accessories prices won't match that for the Uly, though ! Ouch.  | ||
| Jmhinkle |
Yeah the accessories are quite $$$. Needless to say, that is why I'm parting everything I can off the Uly or reusing if possible. There won't be many DP parts on the bike. Doesn't much matter though when the Uly and me have been on the outs for several months. I just never got the experience many of you did with the bike. What's really funny is that I have never liked a Black motorcycle until I saw the Multi S in Black. I know the front end isn't the prettiest, but overall, the Black S model with the carbon pieces and Ohlins is just a work of art to me. From the rear view the Multi is just gorgeous. Do you get a discount on DP parts since you work at a dealer? BTW, no one requested the my ZG shield either. It is still available, make an offer. (Message edited by jmhinkle on December 02, 2007) | ||
| Florida_lime |
Yes, I was fortunate enough to get the discount on parts I used to have when I worked there full time.  Even so, with DP prices, that only goes so far -- Hypermotard accesories like exhausts are very expensive. I have the service manual, 08 heat shields, and ZG windscreen on my Uly -- otherwise I'd speak up for something ! Not every bike is perfect for everyone. I enjoy both the Uly and Hyper S, but for different reasons. Good luck with your newest experience. | ||
| Geopatr |
Congrats on the Ducati. Friend of mine has a MS as well and he loves it. I would love to take those heat deflectors if available. PM sent.  | ||
| Old_mil |
Enjoy the multistrada - if Buells didn't exist, my garage would be full of Ducatis. | ||
| Jmhinkle |
Heat shields sold. Thanks George. Remaining parts still for sale: Service manual Underseat Buell bag New in box Buell heated handgrips kit ZG +4 shield Luggage racks with instructions and all bolts. No bags. I haven't heard back from the people who originally wanted the next items so they are still available. PIAA 510 ATP lights on Ulytility mount with Autoswitch wired in. '07 inner airbox lid. Touratech spoilers. Start making offers. (Message edited by jmhinkle on December 02, 2007) | ||
| Court |
I suspect you're going to love the Multi-Strada. I've read Reg Kittrelle's accounts and go a chance to take a close look at one last week. We'll be eager to see your reports. Have fun. Court | ||
| Paochow |
Let me know if you need a host for your comparo article . Congrats on the new bike. Last time I was up at PJ's they had to escort me off the premises as I was drooling over all the italian bikes. | ||
| Jmhinkle |
I'm not as good at full on comparison writing as you are Paochow, but I will do my best. I will try to do each justice though for those interested and hold back my bias'. Court, thanks for your help on the issues I had with luggage way back when. You are an asset to the company in so many ways. I wish my ownership could have been more enjoyable. PJ's definitely has a nice selection of bikes. So far they have impressed me with customer service quite a bit too. (Message edited by jmhinkle on December 02, 2007) | ||
| Hooliken |
Sent you a PM about your 07 Airbox cover. | ||
| Murraebueller |
JM- I'll take the heat deflectors if you still have them. | ||
| Dentguy |
Congrats on the new bike. I'm thinking about an 08 Multi S in black also. As you said the black with gold Ohlins is beautiful. Don't worry about the front, you can't see it when you are on the bike. Let us know how it is. | ||
| Bobbuell1961 |
still interested in the touratech spoilers.let me know what you need. thanks bob | ||
| Court |
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| Portero72 |
PM sent for underseat bag and ZG | ||
| Jmhinkle |
Replied to pm's. Hooliken, never got yours. Let me know if you got mine. | ||
| Jmhinkle |
Can someone tell me what a fair price for the luggage racks would be? I have no clue as to what to ask and be fair to both parties. I think you can't even order just the racks from Buell. Any help is appreciated. | ||
| Jmhinkle |
Davide, Your email address is rejecting emails. You have another one or different form of comm? | ||
| Jmhinkle |
I'm no fancy writer or even good at being subjective for comparison. I can give my brutally honest opinion on my findings vs others with ease though. Once I found Reg Kittrelle's write up, I can more easily give a comparo from my side by using his as help. Mind you, from everything I found, his comparison is using the 1000s where mine is the new 1100S. Just taking the end of his write-up, I'll comment on why I went the way I did. Part 7 A highly subjective comparison This is the part where I open myself to ridicule, physical abuse, and possibly banishment from any number of drinking establishments. This adventureâ niche is still evolving with its membership a fluid thing dependant upon whom you're speaking with. To my mind, members-in-good-standing include: BMW GS1200 KTM 950 Adventure Triumph Tiger Ducati Multistrada S Suzuki V-Strom 1000 Buell Ulysses I have ridden all of these models and, as I mentioned, own the Ducati. Were I purchasing a motorcycle today the choice would be between the Ducati and the Buell. Obviously, I owned the Buell and ended up with the Ducati. - I admire the BMW, but it is just too damn heavy and certainly not as flickable s my two favorites. }The BMW's have never rubbed me right to warrant a worthy consideration. - The KTM is probably the most dirt-worthy of the group, thus sacrificing highway ability A consideration, but I mostly commute and local KTM dealer is a negative in my book from past experience. - Triumph' Tiger does nothing for me in any area. I couldn't have said it better. What an oddball machine calling itself a motorcycle. Yucko on all aspects. - The Suzuki is competent, but only in an average way. Same dealer as my KTM thus ruled out on being ho-hum without a good dealer available. I know, that' hardly a thorough review, but my saddle time in each is limited. However, the fact that I didn't buy one of them speaks for itself. To you, of course, that's irrelevant. On the other hand, I have 5,000 miles worth of experience with the Ducati Multistrada S. This qualifies me to draw a couple of conclusions, as subjective as they might be. To do this, I've somewhat arbitrarily created categories for comparison: Sport While neither bike fits the visual mold of a traditional sportbike they are, in reality, more sporting ”because of their versatility” than any other category of motorcycles. Between the two, I give the sport edge to the Ducati, but just barely and my thoughts may change when I get them side-by-side. This because it's a more flickable bike despite weighing 16 more pounds (441 vs. 425) and with a three inch longer wheelbase. Contributing to this is a narrower saddle and the fact that it, the motorcycle itself, fits me better. This was the big finding for me. I have a long Torso with normal legs and never found the Buell overly comfortable. Many seat trials, bar tweaks etc.. and I made it tolerable for me. It eventually got to wear I gave up throwing money at it and rode somewhat uncomfortable. The Ducati on the other hand feels as if they used me for the design mold. Seat to ground is good for what I like. I prefer tall bikes. The kicker is that the leg to peg ratio is far superior to the Buell. I don't have the tucked up cramping issues I had with the Buell. Also, I'm not leaning slightly forward putting weight on my hands which aggravates a work injury I had in the past. Finally, the bar bend is very dirtbike-ish. I hated the turn in on the Uly because it plain hurt my wrists. The Multi is almost straight and with my long arms and torso fit's me to a "T". The seat is thin to the eye, but firm and actually works pretty good. As good as any Buell seat I've ever tried anyways. All of this combines to make the Ducati so much easier to operate and have fun on the it gets a hands down win here without question for me. Another factor is the Ohlins suspension. As good as the Buell' is "and it's damn good” I still go with the Ohlins. Were I comparing the standard Multistrada to the Buell, the Buell would win this category. I've never ridden the plain Multi only the S. With that said, I've never found the Buell suspension good. Actually mine sucked without a lot of work and it still needed much more to be good. It was never confidence inspiring. On the otherhand, even with the worst set-up, the Ohlins are amazing. I feel connected and understand what is happening and that makes tuning even easier. I never achieved that with the Buell. Another absolute hands down win for the Multi. Motor Buell wins this round because the torque peak hits harder, sooner, making the Buell a stormer out of a corner. Listed horsepower (crank) is greater with the Buell (103 vs. 84). Don't sell the Ducati L-Twin short. It's a 2-valve spinner that's very satisfying to ride. Plus, I love the idea of desmodromic valve actuation. Here is a difference now because I'm on the 1100 to Reg's 1000. Torque is greater at lower RPM's. The engine is far different from the Buell. Once I did the airbox and exhaust, I loved the Buell engine from 1500 to Redline. Pulled like a Turbo Diesel. I always felt that Redline came too soon though. The Duc on the other hand feels much lower in torque because it doesn't have the ferocity of the Buell, but it does have great torque and a superior power band to the Buell. It is far smoother than the Buell, too smooth in my opinion, but still delivers a great riding experience. It also needs an exhaust to hear the sweet Ducati song. Both bikes have the best sound on the road to me with the proper set-up. I give this a Tie because they are both great in different ways and deliver great riding experiences. Clutch and transmission Buell again, by virtue of the fact that the Ducati clutch sucks. At speed the Duc's dry clutch works beautifully. Around town though, engaging it smoothly takes paying attention. It is the single most irritating aspect of the Multistrada. Again, 1100S with wet hydraulic clutch. I'm seperating these into two categories. Clutch to Buell only because I hate Hydraulic clutches. They offer no feeling and always have a stiffer pull without a mod. I will take a cable anytime over Hydro. I would rather have the old dry clutch merely for the sound than the new one. It takes away from the Duc aura. Transmission goes to Ducati by a long shot. The gears are designed great for the power band of the engine. Once I stopped riding it like I was used to on the Buell, it rewarded my with pleasure. There is also enough gears. The Buell to me needed a lower first and an additional 6th. I was never happy with it except when I could leave it in 3rd and just ride it around. Shifting was never a pleasure on the Buell. You have to like that transmission feel to accept that shifting. Overall a tie because of the two different categories. Another real virtue of the Buell is its belt tensioner; it eliminates most all drive train snatch Haven't noticed any snatch on the Duc so I can't say either is better, but I can say I've never had the problems with chain drive than I had with my belt drive so to each his own. The chain is predictable and more dependable to me. Utility Buell again. Its large seat, innovative Triple Tale and superb bags win the day. I'll give Buell this one, but not for the reasons Reg did. The Duc seems more like an extravagant toy at this point where the Uly felt like it was somewhat utility oriented. In a few months after I've got my bags on the Multi and have been commuting with it I might change my mind. The Buell seat and triple tail didn't win me over at all. The seat I hated in '06 with the '07 being slightly better and the triple tail was a nuisance once I had the top bag on. Since I'm planning on using the same bags on my Multi I can't say the Uly had superior bags can I? I give the Uly a win here mainly because I didn't mind riding it on my dirt road as much as I do the Duc. The Uly always seemed like an old Jeep to me. It would do what I would ask it to, but it's state of operation at the end of the day was always a crapshoot. The Duc feels more like it wasn't designed for offroad at all, but it handles my dirt road fine. I probably will not ask much more from it. Maintenance I'm sensing a trend here. Buell. The chain is a pain on the Ducati, and its 6,000 service interval. The Buell XB motor has proven to be very reliable, tolerant of neglect expensive and, of course, the belt drive needs no attention. Engine maintenance of course goes to Buell, but the Ducati intervals have gotten in line with normal bikes and isn't as hard to do as some say. Again, as I said before, I've had better luck with chain drive than the Uly belt drive so take it or leave it. I can't give either a win because my uly overall maintenance was intensive with all the repairs it needed and I haven't own the Duc long enough to find out yet. My first service at 600 for the valve check is free though! Ergonomics For me, the Ducati comes out on top. Its two-inch lower and narrower seat makes touching the ground a whole lot easier. At the same time, once moving, I give a slight edge to the Buell due to a better handlebar position. Next: A final thought. This I combined with the sporting category because one leads into the other for me. Ergo's for my build are far superior on the Duc. The uly was never right for me. If you like the dirtbike fit and ergo feel, I think you'll find the Multi more comfortable. A final thought. Six-thousand words later I finally get around to making my point: Sir, your new Buell S3 is ready for you. The only difference is that it's faster, it handles better, it's more comfortable, it's reliable, it's cheaper and it sits within spittin'™ distance of the top of the rankings in this category. Enjoy. Never had an S3 and in makes no difference to me. My Uly didn't cut it for what I expect from a motorcycle by a long shot. It was an expensive test on my wallet and patience and made me qeustion many, many things including my sanity. I'll finish with another mind boggling thought. Why is it that an air-cooled Buell can still blister your legs in the winter when and aircooled Ducati doesn't need a fan in the summer? When (it better be when and not if) the Rotax Uly appears, it will be a better comparison. | ||
| Portero72 |
pm sent, email included | ||
| Bearly |
Jmhinkle Pm sent about the heated grips. | ||
| Dentguy |
Thanks for the comparo. You got that up sooner than I expected. As I said earlier the Multi is one of the bikes I have narrowed it down to since my Uly is gone. The local dealer has a demo, I just need to get a chance to take it out. Keep us updated. (Message edited by dentguy on December 02, 2007) | ||
| S_palmer |
PM sent about racks | ||
| Johnboy777 |
...man, this is pretty cool seeing every one scramble for Ducati Boy's farkles.  | ||
| Gotj |
One non-original thought about the value of the racks is to use the HP pricing at Twisted Throttle. Basically, $300-350 depending on the brand and model. | ||
| Jmhinkle |
Gotj, I was taking into consideration the cost of the HB racks for the Multi from Twisted throttle and was trying to figure a price from that. Just seems so high, so I was hoping someone new of some kind of pricing from Buell. Secret Squirrel type of pricing maybe. HB side racks run $330 for the sides and rear is $176 for the Multi. Buell kit was $1200 MSRP for full set with bags so that's lke $900 in reality. Does $220 for the sides and $110 for the for the rear seem fair to you guys? Dentguy, That was just off the cuff based on what I have experienced so far in my relentless search the last week to trade it in and find the right bike for me. I'll give a more accurate review after a few months of ownership and experience with the dealer during the 600 mile check-up. | ||
| Maximum |
Here is a brand new right side case bracket for $66.40. So I think that you should be asking less than that, but I am assuming that the part number in the link below is the correct part. https://www.surdyke.com/hd/product.asp?prod=64849& cat=218 | ||
| Jmhinkle |
Thanks Max. Leftside is more at 100.76, I'm guessing the left side includes the crossbrace. https://www.surdyke.com/hd/product.asp?prod=79700 Can't buy the top mount alone but with the bag it is 312.50. https://www.surdyke.com/hd/product.asp?prod=79701 I'll do both sides for $125 shipped and top for $100 shipped. Sound better? | ||
| Jmhinkle |
I just found my Touratech handlebar bag. Anyone want that? New was $46.40 + shipping, how about $30 shipped? I also have Magnecor plug wires used for about 1000 miles. Kit number 2557 new was $31.00 + shipping. I'll ship them for $20. (Message edited by jmhinkle on December 03, 2007) |
