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Yrocyesmar
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 07:21 pm: |
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If you like buell and you would like to see Erik Buell and staff make a more adventure oriented bike. Somewhat like KTM 950, BMW GS 1150/1200 Adventure. please respond to this thread.....Who knows...he may read..........and who knows....what if it works....I get one free ANY WAY I AM THINKING OF: 1. BIGGER TANK 5+ GALLONS 2. BIGGER SCREEN 3. 19" rims that will accomodate road and offroad tires 4. Slightly longer wheelbase/rake 5. Keep the Harley engine. 6. Offer carburation for south of border excursions and there mechanics 7. I like the tall seat, but how about adjustable seat height for the midgets. 8. Better instrumentation....THATS IT. I BELIEVE THIS WOULD HANDLE THE ROADS JUST FINE AND SPORTY AND WOULD INCREASE YOUR RANGE AND COMFORT IMMENSELY. |
Cygnus_x1
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 08:20 pm: |
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Make things bigger, longer, & better, and wont that make it heavier? Than your're right back to where everybody's poo-pooing it cause of them things, otherwise, I'd be all for it! |
Mrvvrroomm
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 08:41 pm: |
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Bigger tank? That's gonna take some engineering. Bigger screen? Buy one. 19" rims? nuh uh. Carbs? OMG NO, NO, NO!! Better instruments? Why? We don't want added weight. |
Chadhargis
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 09:38 pm: |
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Sounds like you need a BMW R1200GS Adventure. |
Cataract2
| Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 09:45 pm: |
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I will agree with the better instruments. I hate dummy lights and this bike is screaming for an oil/air temp/battery gauges. |
Peter
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 03:21 am: |
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I'd like one that could compete with these two. Or at least one that I could modify to... I was looking at the S1W, and the KTM 250 yesterday, and wondering how I could mate them |
Lorazepam
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 07:54 am: |
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Hey Peter, go to the Buell site, and read the Q&A section, as well as watch the video about the Ulysses. It was NEVER intended to be a match for the HP1 or the KTM. Erik and his team designed a bike that I was looking for. Something that will be a wonderful touring machine, great sport bike, and can handle bad pavement, and fire roads. If you want an off road bike, buy an off road bike, The Ulysses isnt made for that purpose. |
Chadhargis
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 11:30 am: |
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Amen! I wanted a big sportbike for the real world and that's what Buell delivered. Race replicas are great, but they are uncomfortable and don't handle potholes, broken pavement, the occasional road that turns to gravel, and chip seal very well. The Ulysses does. If I had a place to ride dirt, I'd own a dirt bike. In fact, I owned a KLR for a while. I loved it, but I got chased out of too many construction zones trying to find a bumpy road to ride on. |
Blake
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 12:39 pm: |
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Peter the gene splicing motor geneticist mad scientist. Do you think you could work in a detuned RR engine in that mix too please? |
Roadrailer
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 12:46 pm: |
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Hey Peter, go to the Buell site, and read the Q&A section, as well as watch the video about the Ulysses. It was NEVER intended to be a match for the HP1 or the KTM. Erik and his team designed a bike that I was looking for. Something that will be a wonderful touring machine, great sport bike, and can handle bad pavement, and fire roads. If you want an off road bike, buy an off road bike, The Ulysses isnt made for that purpose. +1 It's not a dirt bike, nor was it ever intended to be. |
Henrik
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 02:07 pm: |
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Pete the Mad Scientist indeed. Could result in some interesting offspring though Gale & B.J. - I think you may find that Peter is well aware of the differences between dirt and street bikes and what makes each of them good for their intended purposes http://dakarpete.com/ http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/board-profile.cgi?action=view_prof ile&profile=peter-users Henrik |
Roadrailer
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 03:09 pm: |
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Gale & B.J. - I think you may find that Peter is well aware of the differences between dirt and street bikes and what makes each of them good for their intended purposes We're still talking about something the Ulysses isn't intended to do, and something, IMHO, I don't think you could make it do without a TOTAL redesign. |
Lowflyer
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 03:27 pm: |
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They could make a dirt oriented one with a detuned single derived from the RR motor and call it the XB12Y Achilles. |
Peter
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 03:47 pm: |
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Um guys... All I said was; I'd like one that could compete with these two. If that means a total redesign, and it probably would, that's ok Actually I was at the dealer's today, and was looking at the Uly to see whether an 18-21" wheel combo was do-able. The Alto Turia is in a couple of months. Grizzly is taking his HP2... ...and I'll be on the 660. Sure would be cool to be able to ride a Uly in it though... Still got the bits at home to get 120rwhp out of one |
Peter
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 04:12 pm: |
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"Deviation from design parameters!" "EXTERMINATE!" "EXTERMINATE!" "EXTERMINATE!"
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Lorazepam
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 07:03 pm: |
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Sorry Peter, it just seems like a lot of folks come into forums and say "I like the bike except I want an HP2." I understand now that I have seen your profile, and Yes it would be nice to see a Vtwin from here compete in europe, and in the dakar rally. You would have to change the fork or the angle of the fork to get a bigger wheel on there. I dont think there is enough room to mount a 130 series rear backwards on the front of the stock setup. If they would fit, you could run more aggressive tires for more offroad fun. Not much clearance there though. |
Henrik
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 09:32 pm: |
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Well, since this is a "petition" thread we can always dream, can't we |
Lorazepam
| Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 11:21 pm: |
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We certainly can. I would love to learn from you guys. Please dont mind stupid questions from time to time. |
Peter
| Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 04:22 am: |
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Gale, No problem. I'm a big fan of Erik Buell and the late John Britten. Both are people that did what I wanted to do, but I only dreamed about it, and I have a lot of respect for them. They got off their butts, so I'd love to ride one of Erik's bikes in an area which I enjoy. Nothing wrong with road bikes(track days are great), or the Ulysses as it is(also owned 4 GS's before the Ulysses was released, one of which was the Adventure), but I like to play in the dirt more... so I'm petitioning for an HP2/Super Enduro competitor. Oh, and I'd LOVE to give Grizzly a run for his money on a Buell against that HP2 of his! |
Lorazepam
| Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 09:08 am: |
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I have owned BMW bikes as well, and the Ulysses was the bike that has gotten me to make the switch. I like the bike a lot, it has called to me like no bike in a long time. I hope it is successful, I have placed my faith in it, and look forward to learning about and riding this motorcycle. I agree, it would be great to see some competition to the usual suspects that normally win. |
2old2bfast
| Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 05:24 pm: |
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I would sign the petition and would likely even spend the money to buy that somewhat more dirt oriented version... But then again, my wishlist carried most of the above (minus the carbs), but also has to include greater range in steering lock... I love my Uly for what it is (comfortable, and still awesome up and down tail of the dragon!), but I think there is merit in expanding into that direction. Hey I can wish too! |
Yamahammer490
| Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 12:44 pm: |
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Peter, Your dream bike would look something like this, right? http://www.off-road.com/dirtbike/machines/bajaharley/ |
Clayman
| Posted on Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 07:47 pm: |
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I would have to say that i like that bike. I would buy one in a second if buell came out with something like that. |
Jayvee
| Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 01:17 pm: |
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Use the Blast single-cylinder engine, give it dirt-sized wheels, what's the problem? It could make a GREAT dirt bike or Motard. |
2old2bfast
| Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 07:20 pm: |
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After having ridden a Blast as well as modern motocross (the most common origin for Motards) 450 class thumpers, I'm not too comfortable with the Blast being the right platform to base an offroad anything on... And in my opinion it sure doesn't have the engine either. I'll take an XB12X-Xtreme version if they build one. |
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