| Author | Message | ||
     Tomfrey |
Any idea why the Uly shop manual says to replace the front muffler clamp if you remove it for any reason. They tell you this a few times so it must be for a reason........ | ||
| Cataract2 |
One of the more important clamps. Though you needn't worry about that unless you remove your muffler. I'll put it in simpler terms. If the manual tells you to replace something. Do it! We have someone on here who didn't heed the manuals instructions and now has lot's of screws in their arms for that. (Message edited by cataract2 on January 23, 2006) | ||
| Cygnus_x1 |
Well why dont they include one in the race kit if its so important to replace? I had no idea until the night I go to install it, and of course by then everybodys closed for the weekend. | ||
| Chadhargis |
My guess would be because the band clamp gets stretched or something. They also say to replace the seals for the primary chain inspection cover and the clutch adjust/fill cover. I've had mine off a few times and don't have any leaks. I check it for damage, clean it, and reinstall it. If it leaks, I'll replace it. | ||
| Lowflyer |
I re-used mine, but was careful not to torque them. They are on just snug enough so that they won't move. I also safety wired them so that if they do break, they will not depart the bike. I will have my can off again in the spring for repainting, so I will replace clamps at that time. I think the safe bet is to replace them each time, but I figure it is unlikely that all three would break at the same time and if one breaks, I will be able to make it to a place to get some bailing wire or some way to secure it enough to get home. | ||
| Chadhargis |
Duct tape and bailing wire. It's the real man's repair kit.  | ||
| Brotherbuell |
Here it is right from the SM Torca clamps have eliminated the need for silicone or graphite tape during assembly. To ensure sealing integrity of muffler clamps and prevent the possibility of leakage, Buell recommends the muffler clamp assemblies be discarded and replaced each time they are removed A new Torca clamp and front and rear straps are recommended. Seems like cheap insurance to me. | ||
| Lowflyer |
"Seems like cheap insurance to me." Have you priced them? | ||
| Brotherbuell |
$73.00 for all of 'em. Like I said, cheap insurance. | ||
| Lowflyer |
Yes, you said that twice now.  | ||
| Clayman |
So what is the concern other that that they may break. | ||
| Lowflyer |
The bands can break; especially if they are over-torqued. The clamp stretches and can get to a point that will not be tight enough to form a good seal. There is not much to insure if you ask me, if the clamp develops a leak or a band breaks, I'll just replace them. If they were over-torqued from the factory, they are just as likely to break and/or leak. | ||
| Clayman |
is there any thing to worry about if it leaks | ||
| Brotherbuell |
The engineers at Buell think so. | ||
| Lovehamr |
"To ensure sealing integrity of muffler clamps and prevent the possibility of leakage," To me that means; "might leak if you don't replace" Not; "might fall the hell off if you don't replace" I guess I'm just living dangerously then. | ||
| Lowflyer |
I'm living dangerously too. Meanwhile, I am drawing interest the $73 I have not spent for the replacements.  | ||
| Brotherbuell |
Tomfrey, Check out the thread on the same subject on the XB Board. Lots of good info. | ||
| Lowflyer |
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/32777/126422.html Here's a link to that thread. There is some good info in there. Things I noted: 1. Accident victim used clamps other than factory spec. 2. Muffler was aftermarket muffler. 3. Re-used clamps can break and cause muffler to fall off. 4. Over-torqued new clamps can break and cause muffler to fall off. 5. If muffler falls off, rider could die or be seriously injured. 6. Safety wiring the muffler clamps is cheap insurance no matter if you re-use clamps or put on new ones. 7. Stock mufflers have active exhaust cable that will prevent it from dropping unexpectedly. 8. Safety wire added from the chin fairing mounts to a secure point on the engine may be the best thing to do to ensure muffler does not pole vault your ass. | ||
| Jim_sb |
Anything is possible. A few years ago I was enjoying the smell of hot asphalt on my S2 and my V&H carbon fiber muffler decided to make an unannounced exit. Aside from some additional noise I had no way of knowing the muffler had departed. I re-traced my route and found it resting quietly on the side of the road with a fresh scratch or two. I'd prefer that the muffler remain with the vehicle at all times of course. This is probably the single biggest drawback of the underslung muffler - it could depart unannounced and leave you with a headache or worse. Jim in Santa Barbara | ||
| Buelldualsport |
I have not had my hand on the new style muffler clamps, however, the ones that Buell included in the Tuber Race Kit were/are available at Tractor Supply for about $3.50 each. I would wave a dollar to a donut that the exact same clamp can be located through W.W. Grainer or McMaster Carr for less than $73. Ride Safe | ||
| Clayman |
Tom, how much of a difference do you notice wiht the race kit | ||
| Buelldualsport |
On the Tubers, it filled in a whole in the torque curve, and upper top end power by about 18%. Torque was increased through out the complete curve, in addition to filling in the hole between 3500 and 5000. Have not tried the race kit on the Uly yet. Waiting to get 1000 miles break-in on the motor then we will add the kit. | ||
| Clayman |
cool. i am going to put it on mine soon ive got the drummernow i just need the ecm and filter. Ive heard that a drummer with the ecm and filter are pretty impressive. | ||
| Thunderbox |
Just put on the Drummer and the air filter. The ECM doesn't bring anything to the board other than extra cost. If you look on the dynos on this site you will see the ECM doesn'r make a pony more power than the stock ECM. But hey if you have to say you have the race ECM then go for it. | ||
| Clayman |
No i dont like spending money if i dont have to i got enough other things that i could spend it on. Does this lean it out too much, does it have to go to the dealer and be set up. | ||
| Buelldualsport |
On the tubers the ECM did indeed assist. Can't say anything about the XB series. Ride Safe | ||
| Tomfrey |
Clayman, I dont have the race kit, I have a Drummer. Why do you want the ECM ? I dont think youll need it, and the dealer needs to do a TPS reset, just get the air filter. | ||
| Clayman |
Tomfrey, kevin told me that a guy he knows but an ecm after he put the drummer on and said that the bike was nuts after wards. he couldnt keep the front wheel on the ground. so if its true and i have no reason to not believe kevin then i want some of that to. | ||
| Tomfrey |
Go for it Clayman ! Let us know how it works out. Today I e-mailed the mfr. of the muffler clamps ,Five Star clamps (www.fivestarclamps.com),and asked why or if the clamps need to be replaced. Lets see if I get a answer. | ||
| Clayman |
cool ill post when i get it |
