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Buelldualsport
Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any tips for getting to the rear plug on the Uly?

Dealer changer oil at 50 miles and must have left it running till it loaded up and fouled the plugs.

Front plug is completely fouled with black and I mean black oil/gasoline.

New service manual had not arrived from Dave S, so any hits would be appreciated.

Dealer is 85 miles away, and don't think we will be going back there again.

Thanks for the assistance.

Ride Safe
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Stevem123
Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From the factory manual:

Remove seat.
Remove airbox assy.
Use a 5/8" wobble socket and a 12" extension.

From my experience:

The airbox is pretty straight forward once you remove the airbox cover and filter cover.
take care not to damage or kink the breather hoses or the interactive exhaust cables. Just leave the cables connected, and leave the exhaust servo module mounted to the breather cover. Lay the cover assy to the side while removing the lower airbox cover. It is a snug fit over the hoses and throttle body so use gentle finesse.

BC Steve
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Cataract2
Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also to make it a bit easier remove the left airscoop. This allows you to get your fingers in there a bit to align the plug. Just take your time and hand tighten it first to avoid crossing threading it. One you have it screwed in a good bit by hand tightening it then you can take a torque wrench and torque it down to the proper amount. I would recommend getting the Service Manual though so you can read up on it and get it done right. It will also come in handy should you need to do things down the road.
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Buelldualsport
Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the advice. We have the Service Manual on order from Dave S, whoever, it has not arrived in NC at this time.

Being used to the open access of the tube frame Buells to the plugs, the Uly presents some interesting challenges in changing the plugs.

We had already removed the air box and lower cover, just to get a good look at the location of the rear plug.

Will call dealer on Monday and see what Service Tech has to say about fouled plugs.

Appreciate the assistance.

Ride Safe

Tom
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Cataract2
Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, also, go buy a spark plug wire tool. Will make the job 10x easier.
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Rkc00
Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also get yourself a piece of rubber hose to get the plug back in. I use a piece of silicone hose that fits snug on the plug.

Mike
Long Island, NY
06 XB12X Black of course
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Cliffb
Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 02:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I found out these things just will not start with fouled plugs. I had to pull the plugs and clean them several times before I got her going.
For the rear plug, I did not have to pull the air box assembly, just the seat and airbox cover.
On the left side you will be able to see the plug on the rear cylinder. It's kind of tight. You will need the plug socket, a universal joint and long extension. As Mike said, a piece of rubber hose is great to start the plug back in.

Good luck.
Cliff
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Buelldualsport
Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 06:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks all

Cat: Are you talking about the tool the removes the wire from the top of the plug?

Mike: Great idea especially for those of us with over sided paws for hands.

Cliff: Dealer must have let the bike idle for quite a while after changing the oil, then never restarted it after it was warm.

Am going to return the plugs to the dealer via reqistered mail on Monday, (dealer 80 miles from house).

Thanks for the assistance.

Ride Safe

Tom
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Japbikeboy
Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The planets all have to be in proper alignment.
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Buelldualsport
Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You are right about the planets being aligned.

Hardest part was getting the spark plug wire end reseated after changing the plug.

Thanks
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Paul56
Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 10:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Regarding fuel-fouled plugs. Mine only has ~350 miles on it but I've noticed that at every cold start it runs really rich. REALLY rich, like a carbureted engine with the choke fully closed. I can readily see where it could load up if left to idle excessively when cold. Runs kind of rough for the first mile or two while at light throttle then smooths right out.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I always allow mine to warm up for a few minutes while I get my gear on. I haven't experienced any hard starts or fouling (that I'm aware of).

I'm not familiar with the Buell engine, but typically engines that are fuel injected have an auto choke that turns itself off. If you're fouling plugs, then there might be a problem.
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